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Cetnici-Tschetniks

Metkovic schrieb:
vorallem bei der bekanntesten Schlacht an der Neretva 1943,wo Cetniks,Ustase und Deutsche gegen die Partisanen kämpften....
So haben die serb. Cetnici mit den Ustascha-Faschisten zusammengearbeitet:

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Sag mal, glaubts Du deine NDH-Propaganda selber? Wahrscheinlich gezwungenermasen - aus primitiven Serbenhass...
 
Karadjordje schrieb:
Sag mal Metko, warum postest Du nicht mal diese Bildchen ...

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General Mihajlović zusammen mit US-Piloten


Die sind nämlich auch historisch wertvoll ;)

1944 !!!!

Draza Mihailovic wäre schön blöd gewesen, wenn er die amerikanischen Piloten an die Deutschen ausgeliefert hätte. Man muss wissen, dass diese ganze Rettungsaktion im Jahre 1944 stattfand - und das Ende des Dritten Reiches war bekanntermaßen nur noch eine Frage der Zeit. Das wusste auch unser Freund Draza Mihailovic.
Unbestritten ist allerdings seine aktive Teilnahme an sämtlichen Großoffensiven der Achsenmächte gegen Titos Partisanen im Jahre 1943. Bei der berühmten Schlacht an der Neretva waren gar 15.000 Cetniks der Ravna Gora Bewegung engagiert. Bei den Rückzugsgefechten, wie etwa die Verteidigung von Knin gegen heranstürmende Partisanen im Dezember 1944 waren unter direktem Befehl von Momcilo Djujic ebenfalls tausende Cetniks, gemeinsam mit Ustaschas unter deutschem Kommando ebenfalls beteiligt.

Draza Mihailovic war ein Opportunist, der bereit wahr, mit jedem ins Bett zu steigen, um seine Ziele zu erreichen. Diese Ziele hat er selbst definiert ("ethnisch reines Großserbien") am 20. Dezember 1941. Und die dazugehörigen Massaker, die ab dem Sommer 1941 zur Realisierung dieses faschistoiden Konzeptes einsetzten, sind genau unter diesen definierten Zielen zu betrachte
 
TIME, 25 Mai 1942

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Quelle: http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,766569,00.html

Und der original Text dazu (Achtung! Gänsehautfeeling ...)
Reprinted from Time Magazine
May 25, 1942

Cover Photograph of Mihailovich: Yugoslavia's Unconquered

THE BALKANS
The Eagle of Yugoslavia
(See Cover)

'He clasps the crag with crooked hands...he watches from his
mountain walls, and like a thunderbolt he falls.'

These words, written of an eagle, today are a far better fit
for one of the most amazing commanders of World War II. He is
Yugoslavia's Draja Mihailovich. Ever since Adolf Hitler
vaingloriously announced a year ago that he had conquered
Yugoslavia, Draja Mihailovich and his 150,000 guerrillas in
the mountains southwest of Belgrade have flung the lie in
Hitlers teeth. It has been probably the greatest guerrilla
operation in history
;
Last fall Mihailovich kept as many as seven Nazi divisions
chasing him through his Sumadija mountains.
Mihailovich's swarming raiders have preserved an 'Island of
Freedom,' which for a time was 20,000 square miles in area,
with a population of 4,000,000.
Mihailovich's annihilation of Axis detachments, bombing of
roads and bridges, breaking of communications and stealing of
ammunition have been so widespread that the Nazis had to
declare a new state of war in their 'conquered' territory.
Last October the Nazis even asked for peace. When
Mihailovich refused, they priced his head at $1,000,000.
When the Nazis desperately needed troops in Russia, they
tried to leave Mihailovich to the forces of their Axis
partners and stooges. But Italian, Bulgarian and Rumanian
soldiers could not deal with him, and the Nazis went back.
Only last week the Russians announced that a Nazi division had
arrived at Kharkov fresh from Yugoslavia-where it had
certainly not been stationed for a rest.
Mihailovich's example has kept all Yugoslavia in a wild
anti-Axis ferment. the Axis has resorted to executing untold
thousands, but the revolt continues. Last month the Nazis
said they had seized Mihailovich's wife, two sons and
daughter, threatened to execute all relatives of Mihailovich's
army and 16,000 hostages if the General did not surrender
within five days. He did not.
It is a misfortune that conquered Europe cannot learn detail
by detail the effective methods used by the gaunt,
hard-bronzed figure of TIME'S cover (painted by one of his
compatriots, Vuch Vuchinich). But Draja Mihailovich is
completely cut off from the democracies' press, hemmed in by
the Axis forces in Yugoslavia. Rumania, Bulgaria, Albania and
Greece. His only direct contact with the world beyond has
been through smugglers and a mobile radio transmitter which he
concealed somewhere in his mountain fastnesses.
Even so, he has already become the great symbol of the unknown
thousands of supposedly conquered Europeans who still resist
AdoIf Hitler. As he watches from his mountain walls, he
stands for every European saboteur who awaits the moment to
jam the machine, plant the bomb or pry up the railroad rail.
He has directly inspired others, like Rumanian Patriot Ion
Minulescu, who harries the Axis from the Carpathians, and
Albanian and Montenegrin guerillas who worry at Italian flanks
on the Adriatic coast.

SERB. The once-obscure Balkan officer who has thus far
successfully challenged the modern world's greatest conqueror
was born 47 years ago in Chachak, Serbia. His parents died
when he was a child, and he was raised by an uncle, a musical
Serbian colonel. Draja Mihailovich plays the mandolin
excellently. He entered Beograd's Serbian Military Academy at
15. He has been a lifelong soldier, an officer who got his
training under fire. He is also profoundly a Serb. For those
who know the Serbs, that fact alone would account for his
great-hearted defiance.
The blood bath of oppression which for centuries has laved the
minarets and green poplars of the Baikans has also watered a
glowing military spirit in little Serbian unconquerable will
toward freedom.
In 1389, a date of horror in Serbian minds, the Turks defeated
the Serbs on the plain of Kosovo and slaughtered the cream of
Serbian manhood. For the next four centuries Turkey bore down
on Serbia as hard as Adoif Hitler has done, with such devices
as impaling mutilation and the roasting of living Serbs on
spits.
Early in the 19th Century the great Serbian King Kara George
fought Turkey with Russian aid, got a limited autonomy with
Turkish garrisons still in Serbia. But Napoleon's advance on
Moscow drew away Russian support, and the Turks pressed Serbia
hard again. This time Serbia's Milos Obrenovich made a deal
with turkey for recognition. the deal included the
assassination of Kara George, and this started an
Obrenovich-Kara George dynasty rivalry that was to continue
for decades.
Serbia's rulers were often personally weak and depraved, but
the Serbs in general grew hard and defiant in the schools of
Turkish tyranny and European Realpolitik. They never suffered
from the flabbiness that comes with ease. In the First Balkan
War (1912), Serbia and her Balkan allies finally ousted
Turkey.
In World War I a supposedly exhausted Serbia hurled back two
Austrian attacks, was ravaged by typhus and gave way before a
third, then fought back again from Salonika. Only a year ago
a revolution in Yugoslavia, where the dream of Balkan
federation was becoming an actual as well as a political fact,
deposed the pro-Nazi regent Prince Paul, and Serbian General
Dusan Simovich courageously challenged the juggernaut of AdoIf
Hitler. in Draja Mihailovich's mountains the challenge
persists today.

SOLDIER. In 1912, at 19, Mihailovich left the Serbian
Military Academy to fight the Turks. Wounded the next year,
he returned to school as a sub-lieutenant wearing the Obilich
medal for 'personal courage.' In 1914 the Austrian attack
again broke up school and Mihaiiovich was again wounded,
received the Order of the White Eagle. On the eve of the
Salonika offensive he rejoined his company and finally
returned to Serbia wearing its highest decoration, the Kara
George Star with crossed swords.
He was sent as military attache to Sofia (1934) and Prague
(1936), and is rumored to have been connected with underground
movements working against Nazi influence in both Bulgaria and
Czechoslovakia.
In 1939, as chief of Yugoslavia's fortifications, he revealed
himself as a Balkan De Gaulle, holding that a nation of such
limited financial means should not try to build Maginot Lines
but should concentrate on mobile and offensive possibilities.

STORIES. Tales about Mihailovich, apocryphal or smuggled out
of his mountains, abound in Yugoslav circles. It is said that
he has done some of his own espionage, eating with German
officers in a tavern where the host, devoted to him, was
panicky with fright. Nazi officers are said to have driven up
to a farmhouse where Mihaiiovich and friends were staying.
When he had convinced the Nazis of his innocence, one of his
friends remarked: 'That was a close one.' Mihailovich
replied: 'It was close for them, too.' He pointed to a bush
behind which a guerriila machine-gun crew had been ready for
the Nazis. The General is also rumored to have done a brisk
trade exchanging Italian prisoners for Italian gasoline at the
rate of one Italian private for one can of gas, one colonel
for 50 cans.

Today Draja Mihailovich seems legendary, but he is a legend
with a big basis in fact: the fact that he has kept from five
to ten Nazi divisions at a time fighting to conquer the
country which they destroyed twelve long months ago.

May 25th, 1942 Time
 
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Vierte Bild von rechts oben genau angucken ...

(Bestellen: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0964567911/103-5437511-5339837?v=glance&n=283155 )

"Over the past year, THE NEW AMERICAN has profiled 25 of these extraordinary individuals in a series entitled '20th Century Heroes.' (Other worthy candidates could have been profiled, space permitting.) In one of those essays - the one honoring World War II freedom fighter Draza Mihailovich - Fr. James Thornton observes: 'Without heroes and without heroic sacrifices, there would be no liberty, no law, no order, no justice, no civilization, no great nations or peoples, and no history as we understand that word. Without heroes, such records as might exist among men would be squalid tales of cravenness and brutality.' But thanks to heroes, the history of the 20th century is not confined to "squalid tales of cravenness and brutality.' Liberty, law, order, justice, civilization, and great nations and peoples still exist, even though all are under attack. Without 20th century heroes, the Total State would have triumphed long ago; because of them we still have the opportunity to save our Christian-style civilization."

Quelle: http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/08-02-99/vo15no16.htm

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Legija schrieb:
Yugo4ever schrieb:
Schiptar schrieb:
Was die beiden verblödetsten und rechtesten US-Präsidenten des 20. Jh. vor Bush 2 über einen jugoslawischen Kriegsherrn gesagt haben, kann man den Hasen füttern. (Gerade Nixon konnte man seit Watergate eh nicht mal mehr die Uhrzeit glauben.)
Welchen Aussagewert hat so was? Gar keinen.


Darauf wollte ich hinaus :tu:


ja ne ist klar darauf wolltest DU hinaus.... :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:oha: 8O dieser Post war ja so schlagfertig mich hats 10m weit vom Stuhl gehauen :withstupid: :!:
 
Im Vergleich zu Cica Drazas Cetnici die Heldenhaften Masenkindermörder der Ustaschen ...

"In Bosnia... the Croatian fascists began a massacre of Serbs which, in the whole annals of World War II was surpassed for savagery only by the mass extermination of Polish Jews."

Dieses Zitat findet man in allen Ausgaben der Encyclopedia Britannica von 1971 bis 1987. Man kann es z.B. in der Encyclopedia Britannica Edition 1971, Volume 23, Seite 922 oder in der Encyclopedia Britannica, Edition 1987, Volume 29, Seite 1054 finden.
"Im übrigen konnte auch bei früheren Unternehmungen festgestellt werden,daß die Ustascha keinen Angriffsgeist besitzt,wenn es darauf ankommt,gleich starke feindliche Kräfte zu schlagen,und sich nur tapfer zeigt gegen völlig unterlegene oder unbewaffnete zivilie Bevölkerung"

Einschätzung der 718.Wehrmachts-Infanerie-Division, vgl. BA/MA RH 26-118/12 KTB-Eintrag vom 07.07.1942

Aus dem Buch Partisanenkrieg in Jugoslawien S.95 von Klaus Schmider
"Die kroatische Gruppierung der Ustascha ist katholisch, undiszipliniert, schlecht militärisch ausgebildet, und für den Kampfeinsatz nicht geeignet und zeichnet sich aufgrund dessen aus, dass sie 600 - 700,000 konfessionell und politisch andersstehende nach Methoden das Balkans abgeschlachtet hat. Sie bezeichnt sich selbst als die kroatische SS."

Generalmajor der Waffen SS Ernst Fick, am 16.03.1944 in einem Brief an Reichsführer der SS Heinrich Himmler
 
Ihr seid alle so Lächerlich. Alle samt. Anstatt das ihr auf jede Einzelne Anti Faschistische Bewegung stolz seid. Auf die Menschen die mit ihrem Blut für die Freiheit eingetreten sind. Mit ihrem Leben das Recht der Völker verteidigt haben!

Zerfetzt ihr euch gegenseitig. Wer seid ihr das ihr das Andenken an solch Tapfere Männer besudeln könnt? Jeder Kommunist, Edelweisspirat, Chetnik und andere.

Jebo vam pas mater!
 
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