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@stipe

bevor du zu einem superhistoriker ausartest, denk manchmal über die gestellten fragen nach, bevor du irgendwelche karten postest, please.
tito fragte nach einer karte vor 91, nicht nach 95.

die meisten ideologen der balkanischen kriege von 91-95 und 99 sind keine serben aus serbien, sondern entweder orthodoxe aus kroatien, bih oder cg. siehe milosevic, karadzic, mladic, babic, draskovic, seselj.
 
Tariq, über die Karte hatten wir schon eine GROSSE GROSSE Diskussion. Du weisst schliesslich selber, dass in vielen Gebieten die Moslems in den Städten Konzentriert waren. Man sprach auch sehr oft von der Moslemischen Zivilgesellschaft und der rückständigen orthodoxen Bauernmasse.

Diese Karte war auch gar nicht Gegenstand dieser Diskussion. Es geht primäer um die Frage, welche Gebiete/Landkreise die SDS unter "serbische autonome Gebiete" fasste, im Herbst des Jahres 1991.

Dass solch eine Proklamation einseitig und nicht im Konsens mit den anderen Volksgruppen gefallen wurde, ist ja bekannt. Nur ist es eine anderes Dimension, wenn sich Ortschaften in solch einer "serbischen Region" befinden, in der Serben selbst nur eine Minderheit stellen - siehe "Odluka o verifikaciji srpskih autonomnih oblasti" der SDS (unterschrieben von Krajisnik persönlich) vom 21.November 1991.....

Auf den Text werde ich noch zu gegebener Zeit eingehen...
 
Dr_Radovan_Karadzic schrieb:
E ovako dragi moji imam par pitanja i zelim ozbilnje odgvore. Kao prvo nikad mi jasno nece biti koji je jezik "Bosanski" i zasto se Muslimani nazivaju "Bosancima"....a evo zašto. Taj takozvani bosanski ljudi moji razumijem ja,razumije hrvat,razumije slovenac i crnogorac. Muslimani umjesto "dodji" govore "dodzi" i umjesto "sacu" vicu "sachu" znaci promjenio si 5 slova u 5 rijeci i imas svoj jezik? U bivsoj Jugoslaviji je postojao jedan jezik a to je srpsko-hrvatski ili hrvatsko-srpski kako hoces.jebo vas Tito u dupe. ja vas ne kontam ljudi jer vi ste MUSLIMANI,vjerujete u Islam i vidite hrvati imaju hrvatsku,srbi srbiju ovi ovo ovi ono e pa aj da i mi sebi otkinemo komad zemlje. Koja crna suvjerena Bosna bolan pa znali ste da ce te dobit po picki. Mislim ja licno ne'am nista protiv Bosne kao nezavisne drzave ali Bosna u kojoj ce Izetbegovic biti moj predsjednik,ljiljan mi visiti iznad kuce i hodza pjevat uz popodnevnu kafu postoji samo u vasim srcima. Stvarno ne znam sta je vas predsjednik mislio kad je govorio o suvjerenoj Bosni,jer tu Bosnu nece nikad dobit ni za hiljadu godina na grob mu se poserem. Dok je i jedne kapi krvi u ijednog srbina bosna nikad nece biti suvjerena nek vam je to jasno. Mozete vi pricat sta hocete i mogu ja pricat sta hocu samo ne zaboravite da smo mi imali 75% od te vase suvjerene bosne i da nije americke fasisticke politike i principa jos bi je imali. Mogu vam ba ovde nabrajat do sutra o tome kako su nas sjebali a vama lizu paksu jer imate nafte. Karadzic je ratni zlocinac,Mladic ratni zlocinac dobro u neku ruku i jesu ali oces mi rec da Alija nije? Da Franjo nije? Jebem im mater kad je umro Alija onda je slozena pricaiz Haga "ma vodili smo postupak protiv njega al je u medjuvremenu umro" e zamisli. Cekali ljudi dok umre da kazu kako je vodjen postupak protiv nejga al na zalost umro je pa se nije moglo zavrsit to sto se pocelo. Tri nacije a Srbi krivi zato sto'e Aljo htio da nam sjedi za vratom. Nazivajte se Muslimanima onim sto i jeste ne presirajte se s tom Bosnom,Bosanskim i s tim šemama jer to nikada necete vidjeti.

REPUBLIKA SRPSKA NIKAD BOSNA SUVJERENA!!!


Idi jedi govna pederu :D
So ein müll habe ich lange nicht mehr gelesen! :D Am besten wäre für dich und deinesgleichen sich aus Bosnien zu verziehn,wenn ihr nicht wieder das gleiche schicksal wie im 2 weltkrieg erleben wollt :lol: Bosnier sind eine ethnie/nation da kannst du noch soviel milosevic-propaganda reden!Wenns euch in BIH nicht passt,verschwindet doch in euer mutterland SERBIEN du misstgeburt :D
 
Dr_Radovan_Karadzic schrieb:
E ovako dragi moji imam par pitanja i zelim ozbilnje odgvore. Kao prvo nikad mi jasno nece biti koji je jezik "Bosanski" i zasto se Muslimani nazivaju "Bosancima"....a evo zašto. Taj takozvani bosanski ljudi moji razumijem ja,razumije hrvat,razumije slovenac i crnogorac. Muslimani umjesto "dodji" govore "dodzi" i umjesto "sacu" vicu "sachu" znaci promjenio si 5 slova u 5 rijeci i imas svoj jezik? U bivsoj Jugoslaviji je postojao jedan jezik a to je srpsko-hrvatski ili hrvatsko-srpski kako hoces.jebo vas Tito u dupe. ja vas ne kontam ljudi jer vi ste MUSLIMANI,vjerujete u Islam i vidite hrvati imaju hrvatsku,srbi srbiju ovi ovo ovi ono e pa aj da i mi sebi otkinemo komad zemlje. Koja crna suvjerena Bosna bolan pa znali ste da ce te dobit po picki. Mislim ja licno ne'am nista protiv Bosne kao nezavisne drzave ali Bosna u kojoj ce Izetbegovic biti moj predsjednik,ljiljan mi visiti iznad kuce i hodza pjevat uz popodnevnu kafu postoji samo u vasim srcima. Stvarno ne znam sta je vas predsjednik mislio kad je govorio o suvjerenoj Bosni,jer tu Bosnu nece nikad dobit ni za hiljadu godina na grob mu se poserem. Dok je i jedne kapi krvi u ijednog srbina bosna nikad nece biti suvjerena nek vam je to jasno. Mozete vi pricat sta hocete i mogu ja pricat sta hocu samo ne zaboravite da smo mi imali 75% od te vase suvjerene bosne i da nije americke fasisticke politike i principa jos bi je imali. Mogu vam ba ovde nabrajat do sutra o tome kako su nas sjebali a vama lizu paksu jer imate nafte. Karadzic je ratni zlocinac,Mladic ratni zlocinac dobro u neku ruku i jesu ali oces mi rec da Alija nije? Da Franjo nije? Jebem im mater kad je umro Alija onda je slozena pricaiz Haga "ma vodili smo postupak protiv njega al je u medjuvremenu umro" e zamisli. Cekali ljudi dok umre da kazu kako je vodjen postupak protiv nejga al na zalost umro je pa se nije moglo zavrsit to sto se pocelo. Tri nacije a Srbi krivi zato sto'e Aljo htio da nam sjedi za vratom. Nazivajte se Muslimanima onim sto i jeste ne presirajte se s tom Bosnom,Bosanskim i s tim šemama jer to nikada necete vidjeti.

REPUBLIKA SRPSKA NIKAD BOSNA SUVJERENA!!!

Denk ich genauso :thumbup:
 
Die UN Anklage gegen Primitiv Mörder Naser Oric

Naser Oric überfiel damals die umliegenden Serbischen Dörfer und
plünderte und massakrierte. die Dörfer und Toten sind genau in der
Anklage aufgezeichnet,wobei Sebrenica eine UN Schutz Zone war.

Die Geschichte ist somit längst auch über die Massaker von Serbrenica
umgeschrieben.

THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL TRIBUNAL FOR THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA

CASE NO: IT-03-68-I

THE PROSECUTOR OF THE TRIBUNAL
AGAINST
NASER ORIC

The Prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former
Yugoslavia, pursuant to her authority under Article 18 of the Statute
of the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia
(hereafter: Statute of the Tribunal) charges:

NASER ORIC

with VIOLATIONS OF THE LAWS OR CUSTOMS OF WAR, as set forth below:

THE ACCUSED


Naser ORIC, son of Dzemal and Hata (née MUSTAFIC), was born on 3
March 1967 in Potocari, municipality of Srebrenica, Republic of
Bosnia and Herzegovina (hereafter: Bosnia and Herzegovina).


Naser ORIC was attached to the special unit for atomic and chemical
defence of the Yugoslav People’s Army (hereafter: JNA) during his
mandatory service in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (hereafter:
FRY) during 1985 and 1986. He left the JNA with the rank of Corporal.


Naser ORIC is a former police officer. In 1988, he completed a six
month training course in Zemun and served in Savski Venac in Belgrade
as a trainee policeman. As a member of the police unit for special
actions, he had courses for two more years. In 1990, Naser ORIC was
deployed to Kosovo as a member of a police unit for special actions
of the Ministry of the Interior of the Republic of Serbia.
Thereafter, he returned to Belgrade. On 5 August 1991, he was
transferred to a Police Station in Ilidza, on the outskirts of
Sarajevo. In late 1991, Naser ORIC was moved to the Police Station in
Srebrenica and on 8 April 1992 was made the Police Chief of the
Potocari Police sub-station.


On 17 April 1992, the Potocari Territorial Defence (hereafter: TO)
was established and Naser ORIC became its Commander. The command area
of the Potocari TO encompassed the local commune areas of Potocari,
Likari, Caus, Zalazje and Azlica.


On 20 May 1992, members of the Crisis Staff of the TO Srebrenica
appointed Naser ORIC as the Commander. On 27 June 1992, Sefer
HALILOVIC, Chief of the Supreme Command Staff of the Army of Bosnia
and Herzegovina (hereafter: ABiH) officially confirmed Naser ORIC as
the Commander of the Srebrenica TO Headquarters (hereafter: HQ).
Naser ORIC commanded all units subordinated to the Srebrenica TO HQ.
On 8 August 1992, Naser ORIC's position as Commander of the
Srebrenica TO HQ was re-confirmed by the Presidency of Bosnia and
Herzegovina. On 3 September 1992, the Srebrenica TO HQ was re-named
the HQ Srebrenica Armed Forces. Naser ORIC remained the Commander.


Naser ORIC became a member of the War Presidency in Srebrenica upon
its creation on 1 July 1992. He was appointed in his capacity as
Commander of the Srebrenica TO HQ.


Naser ORIC's command was further extended when he was appointed the
Commander of the Joint Armed Forces of the Sub-Region Srebrenica in
early November 1992. His command encompassed the geographical regions
of several municipalities, namely, Srebrenica, Bratunac, Vlasenica
and Zvornik in Eastern Bosnia.


On 1 January 1994, all units under the command of Naser ORIC were
named the 8th Operative Group Srebrenica HQ of the ABiH.


On 12 July 1994, Naser ORIC was promoted to the rank of Brigadier.


In early 1995, the 8th Operative Group Srebrenica HQ was re-named the
ABiH 2nd Corps 28th Division. Naser ORIC remained its Commander until
he left the ABiH in August 1995.


Sometime before 1 March 1994, Naser ORIC was awarded the "Golden
Lily", the highest award given by the Chief of Staff of the Supreme
Command of the ABiH. On 15 April 1993, Naser ORIC received a
Certificate of Merit, again from the Chief of Staff of the Supreme
Command of the ABiH.

INDIVIDUAL CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY

Article 7(1) of the Statute of the Tribunal

http://www.un.org/icty/indictment/english/ori-ii030328e.htm
 
Re: Die UN Anklage gegen Primitiv Mörder Naser Oric

lupo-de-mare schrieb:
Naser Oric überfiel damals die umliegenden Serbischen Dörfer und
plünderte und massakrierte. die Dörfer und Toten sind genau in der
Anklage aufgezeichnet,wobei Sebrenica eine UN Schutz Zone war.

Die Geschichte ist somit längst auch über die Massaker von Serbrenica
umgeschrieben.

THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL TRIBUNAL FOR THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA

CASE NO: IT-03-68-I

THE PROSECUTOR OF THE TRIBUNAL
AGAINST
NASER ORIC

The Prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former
Yugoslavia, pursuant to her authority under Article 18 of the Statute
of the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia
(hereafter: Statute of the Tribunal) charges:

NASER ORIC

with VIOLATIONS OF THE LAWS OR CUSTOMS OF WAR, as set forth below:

THE ACCUSED


Naser ORIC, son of Dzemal and Hata (née MUSTAFIC), was born on 3
March 1967 in Potocari, municipality of Srebrenica, Republic of
Bosnia and Herzegovina (hereafter: Bosnia and Herzegovina).


Naser ORIC was attached to the special unit for atomic and chemical
defence of the Yugoslav People’s Army (hereafter: JNA) during his
mandatory service in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (hereafter:
FRY) during 1985 and 1986. He left the JNA with the rank of Corporal.


Naser ORIC is a former police officer. In 1988, he completed a six
month training course in Zemun and served in Savski Venac in Belgrade
as a trainee policeman. As a member of the police unit for special
actions, he had courses for two more years. In 1990, Naser ORIC was
deployed to Kosovo as a member of a police unit for special actions
of the Ministry of the Interior of the Republic of Serbia.
Thereafter, he returned to Belgrade. On 5 August 1991, he was
transferred to a Police Station in Ilidza, on the outskirts of
Sarajevo. In late 1991, Naser ORIC was moved to the Police Station in
Srebrenica and on 8 April 1992 was made the Police Chief of the
Potocari Police sub-station.


On 17 April 1992, the Potocari Territorial Defence (hereafter: TO)
was established and Naser ORIC became its Commander. The command area
of the Potocari TO encompassed the local commune areas of Potocari,
Likari, Caus, Zalazje and Azlica.


On 20 May 1992, members of the Crisis Staff of the TO Srebrenica
appointed Naser ORIC as the Commander. On 27 June 1992, Sefer
HALILOVIC, Chief of the Supreme Command Staff of the Army of Bosnia
and Herzegovina (hereafter: ABiH) officially confirmed Naser ORIC as
the Commander of the Srebrenica TO Headquarters (hereafter: HQ).
Naser ORIC commanded all units subordinated to the Srebrenica TO HQ.
On 8 August 1992, Naser ORIC's position as Commander of the
Srebrenica TO HQ was re-confirmed by the Presidency of Bosnia and
Herzegovina. On 3 September 1992, the Srebrenica TO HQ was re-named
the HQ Srebrenica Armed Forces. Naser ORIC remained the Commander.


Naser ORIC became a member of the War Presidency in Srebrenica upon
its creation on 1 July 1992. He was appointed in his capacity as
Commander of the Srebrenica TO HQ.


Naser ORIC's command was further extended when he was appointed the
Commander of the Joint Armed Forces of the Sub-Region Srebrenica in
early November 1992. His command encompassed the geographical regions
of several municipalities, namely, Srebrenica, Bratunac, Vlasenica
and Zvornik in Eastern Bosnia.


On 1 January 1994, all units under the command of Naser ORIC were
named the 8th Operative Group Srebrenica HQ of the ABiH.


On 12 July 1994, Naser ORIC was promoted to the rank of Brigadier.


In early 1995, the 8th Operative Group Srebrenica HQ was re-named the
ABiH 2nd Corps 28th Division. Naser ORIC remained its Commander until
he left the ABiH in August 1995.


Sometime before 1 March 1994, Naser ORIC was awarded the "Golden
Lily", the highest award given by the Chief of Staff of the Supreme
Command of the ABiH. On 15 April 1993, Naser ORIC received a
Certificate of Merit, again from the Chief of Staff of the Supreme
Command of the ABiH.

INDIVIDUAL CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY

Article 7(1) of the Statute of the Tribunal

http://www.un.org/icty/indictment/english/ori-ii030328e.htm


Poste doch mal die verbrechen von Radovan du schwuchtel!!
 
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