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Was wäre Makedonien ohne uns Albaner
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Albanesi
Gesperrt
Serbian_Prophet schrieb:
Zwing mich nicht, die Geschichte des Balkans erneut aufzuwärmen!
Da die Albaner schon seit Mensch gedenkt auf dem Balkan leben und somit auch in Makedonien, brauche ich mir von Dir nicht Faschismus vorwerfen zu lassen!
Makedonien gehört den Makedoniern slawischer aromunischer albanischer usw Herkunft gleichermassen. Die Bezeichung "slawisch" benutze ich zur Unterscheidung zu den Aromunen Albaner und anderen!
nur damit wir uns verstehen, ok!!!
lupo-de-mare
Gesperrt
Albanesi schrieb:
Zu der Frage, Sklave usw. in alten griechischen Reich.
Damals hatte ein Bürger ca. 20 Sklaven!
Also ist bzw. war die Mehrheit der antiken Mazedonier ganz einfach Sklaven gewesen. Der Raub von Sklaven, Kindern, Frauen usw.. war damals in der Welt eine Art von Politik.
lupo-de-mare
Gesperrt
Albanesi schrieb:
Albanesi
Gesperrt
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Macedoromanian
Macedoromanian or Aromanian is a language in the eastern group of the Romance languages. It is considered to be either a Romanian dialect or a separate language.
The language is similar to the Romanian language, but with some small differences. Macedoromanian is spoken by the Aromanian or Vlach minority in Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, but also in parts of Albania, Serbia, Bulgaria and Greece.
Ich hoffe, Du hast Dir das sehr gut durchgelesen Lupo !
Romanian has four dialects - Daco-romanian - generally referred as Romanian, Istro-Romanian, Megleno-Romanian, and Macedoromanian. It is thought that the Romanian language appeared north and south of the Danube. All the four dialects are offsprings of the Romance languge spoken both in the North and South Danube, before the settlement of the Slavonian tribes south of the river - Daco-Romanian in North, and the other three dialects in the South.
Die anderen Wlachen wurden also von den Slawen nach Süden verfolgt.
Also heisst das sie waren vor den slawen in Makedonien.
Macedoromanian or Aromanian is a language in the eastern group of the Romance languages. It is considered to be either a Romanian dialect or a separate language.
The language is similar to the Romanian language, but with some small differences. Macedoromanian is spoken by the Aromanian or Vlach minority in Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, but also in parts of Albania, Serbia, Bulgaria and Greece.
Ich hoffe, Du hast Dir das sehr gut durchgelesen Lupo !
Romanian has four dialects - Daco-romanian - generally referred as Romanian, Istro-Romanian, Megleno-Romanian, and Macedoromanian. It is thought that the Romanian language appeared north and south of the Danube. All the four dialects are offsprings of the Romance languge spoken both in the North and South Danube, before the settlement of the Slavonian tribes south of the river - Daco-Romanian in North, and the other three dialects in the South.
Die anderen Wlachen wurden also von den Slawen nach Süden verfolgt.
Also heisst das sie waren vor den slawen in Makedonien.
Albanesi
Gesperrt
Und Lupo es ist schwupp und Sprunga wann die albaner in Makedonien waren.
Tatsache ist sie waren und bleiben alteingesessene Europäer in gegensatz zu den slawischen einwanderer aus Sibirien.
Hier noch ein Beweis.
It is generally considered that Aromanian dialects split from the main Romanian language around 1200 years ago. It contains the same common words with Albanian as Romanian (believed to be of Dacian) and 70 early Slavic borrowings, but no Hungarian language words.
Es kann nicht sein das die Albaner erst wegen die Türken oder erst nach den Slawen eingewandert sind.
Oder wir wären Kaukasier , denn wenn das so wäre wie kommt es das wir mit den Rumänen(Römer sehr verbunden sind.
Wir müssen sehr lange , noch lange da sein als die ebenfalls eingewanderten Aromunen die ja vor den slawen fliehen mussten und sozusagen bei uns Albaner ein Zuhause gefunden haben und mit uns sogar vermischt haben.
Und uns in Schuz Byzanzs uns vor den Barabischen Horden uns beschützten.
Siehe Thumanns These , woran du ja soo gerne zweifelst.
Examples of such words in Romanian are:
abur - "steam", "vapour"; Albanian "avull"
agale - "walking slowly"; Albanian "ngadal
balaur - "dragon"; Albanian "boll
baligă - "manure"; Albanian "balg
baltă - "puddle"; Albanian "balt
barză - "stork"; Albanian "bardh
brad - "fir"; Albanian "bredh"
''br u - "belt", "girdle"; Albanian "bres", "brezi"
broască'' - "frog"; Albanian "breshk
" (or Latin "brosca")
bucuros - "happy"; "bukurosh" in Albanian is "beautiful child, boy."
bulz - "ball of corn mush"
buză - "lip"; this word has the same meaning in Albanian.
căciulă - "cap"; Albanian "k
"
căpuşă - "tick" (insect); Albanian "k push
"
cătun - "hamlet"; Albanian "katun"
ceafă - "nape"; Albanian " ", "qaf
"
coclauri - "deserted, far places"
copac - "tree"; Albanian "kopa
/e" = beating
copil - "child"; in Albanian "kopil" and Serbian and Croatian "kopile"= bastard
cioară - "crow"; Albanian "sorr
"
ciot - "gnarl", "knot" (wood)
doină - "melancholy folk song"; Latvian "daina" with the same meaning
droaie - "crowd", "a lot of"; Albanian "droe", "droje"
''făr mă'' - "crumb"; Albanian "th rrime"
fluture - "butterfly"; Albanian "flutur"
gard - "fence"; Albanian "gardh"
gata - "ready"; Albanian "gat"
ghimpe - "thorn"; Albanian "gj mp", "gjemb"
groapă - "hole", "pit"; Albanian "grop
"
grumaz - "neck"; in Albanian, "gurmaz"= throat and it is often used in a derogatory manner
a se gudura - "to fawn"; Albanian "gudutis"
guşă - "goiter", "crop"; Albanian "gush
" (with the same meaning or meaning "Adam's apple") (Note: both Albanian and Romanian may originate from the Latin "geusiae")
a licări/licuri - "to sparkle"
mal - "bank", "shore"; Albanian "mal" (meaning mountain), "Mal i Zi" = "Montenegro" (Albanian "zi" black)
mare - "big"
mazăre - "pea"; Albanian "modhull
"
măgar - "donkey"; Albanian "magar"
măgură - "hill"; Albanian "magul
"
mălai - "corn flour" (perhaps derived from mei "millet", Albanian "mel")
mămăligă - "corn mush" (perhaps derived from mălai)
mărar - "dill"; Albanian "m raj", Greek "marathron"
mătrăgună - "mountain laurel"; Albanian "mat rgon
"
mătură - "broom"
''m nz'' - "colt"; Albanian "m s"
''m nzare'' - "sheep giving milk"; Albanian "m zore"
''m
ţă - "cat", "kitten"; Albanian "mace"
mire/mireasă'' - "groom"/"bride"; Albanian "mir
" (meaning good)
a (se) mişca - "to move"
moaşă - "midwife"; same origin as moş
molid - "spruce fir"; Albanian "molik
"
moş - "old man"; in Albanian "mosha" = age, "moshuar" = of old age
motan - "tomcat"
mugur - "bud" (biol.); Albanian "mugull"
murg - "bay" (color), "bay horse"; Albanian "murg"
a muşca - "to bite"
pală - (hay) "quantity of hay held by a pitchfork", (wind) "breeze"
păstaie - "pod", "seedcase"; Albanian "pista
", "bishtaj
"
''p u, p rău'' - "brook"; Albanian "p rrua" (and/or from the Romanian "r u", which originates from the Latin word "rivus")
prunc - "baby"
raţă - "duck"; Albanian "ros
" (also Serbo-Croat "raca", Friulian "raze", Basque "eratz")
a răbda - "to endure"
răgaz - "rest", "respite"
''r nză'' - "gizzard", "stomach"; Albanian "rr s"
''s mbure - "stone", "pit"; Albanian "sumbull", "thumbull"
a speria - "to scare" (or from the Latin word espavorare)
st nă - "sheepfold"; in Albanian "stan" means "dairy", "dairy farm"
st ncă - "rock"
strugure - "grape"
tare - "hard" or "loud" (or from the Latin word talem)
ţap - "he-goat"; Albanian "cjap", Serbo-Croat "cap"
ţarc - "fold", "pen"; Albanian "carc", "thark"
ţăruş - "stake", "picket"; in Albanian "thur" means "to knit"
ţeapă - "pole", "pale", "stake"; in Albanian "thep" means "sharp peak"
ţugui - "peak", "point"
urdă - "soft cottage cheese" (incorporating whey)
varză - "cabbage" (or from the Latin word viridia)
veveriţă - "squirrel" (or from the Slavonic word veverica)
viezure'' - a wild forest animal like a ferret or marten (badger); Albanian "viedhull
und und und..............Leute hört auf immer so ein Schwachsinn zu erzählen , außerdem ihr bringt nirgends Beweise von wegen das die Albaner=keine Illyrer wären , weil es keine gibt , also ihr seht es wird immer schmerzlicher , wenn ihr es immer noch nicht kapiert habt dann weiss ich auch nicht mehr was ich dazu sagen soll .
Tatsache ist sie waren und bleiben alteingesessene Europäer in gegensatz zu den slawischen einwanderer aus Sibirien.
Hier noch ein Beweis.
It is generally considered that Aromanian dialects split from the main Romanian language around 1200 years ago. It contains the same common words with Albanian as Romanian (believed to be of Dacian) and 70 early Slavic borrowings, but no Hungarian language words.
Es kann nicht sein das die Albaner erst wegen die Türken oder erst nach den Slawen eingewandert sind.
Oder wir wären Kaukasier , denn wenn das so wäre wie kommt es das wir mit den Rumänen(Römer sehr verbunden sind.
Wir müssen sehr lange , noch lange da sein als die ebenfalls eingewanderten Aromunen die ja vor den slawen fliehen mussten und sozusagen bei uns Albaner ein Zuhause gefunden haben und mit uns sogar vermischt haben.
Und uns in Schuz Byzanzs uns vor den Barabischen Horden uns beschützten.
Siehe Thumanns These , woran du ja soo gerne zweifelst.
Examples of such words in Romanian are:
abur - "steam", "vapour"; Albanian "avull"
agale - "walking slowly"; Albanian "ngadal
balaur - "dragon"; Albanian "boll
baligă - "manure"; Albanian "balg
baltă - "puddle"; Albanian "balt
barză - "stork"; Albanian "bardh
brad - "fir"; Albanian "bredh"
''br u - "belt", "girdle"; Albanian "bres", "brezi"
broască'' - "frog"; Albanian "breshk
" (or Latin "brosca")
bucuros - "happy"; "bukurosh" in Albanian is "beautiful child, boy."
bulz - "ball of corn mush"
buză - "lip"; this word has the same meaning in Albanian.
căciulă - "cap"; Albanian "k
"
căpuşă - "tick" (insect); Albanian "k push
"
cătun - "hamlet"; Albanian "katun"
ceafă - "nape"; Albanian " ", "qaf
"
coclauri - "deserted, far places"
copac - "tree"; Albanian "kopa
/e" = beating
copil - "child"; in Albanian "kopil" and Serbian and Croatian "kopile"= bastard
cioară - "crow"; Albanian "sorr
"
ciot - "gnarl", "knot" (wood)
doină - "melancholy folk song"; Latvian "daina" with the same meaning
droaie - "crowd", "a lot of"; Albanian "droe", "droje"
''făr mă'' - "crumb"; Albanian "th rrime"
fluture - "butterfly"; Albanian "flutur"
gard - "fence"; Albanian "gardh"
gata - "ready"; Albanian "gat"
ghimpe - "thorn"; Albanian "gj mp", "gjemb"
groapă - "hole", "pit"; Albanian "grop
"
grumaz - "neck"; in Albanian, "gurmaz"= throat and it is often used in a derogatory manner
a se gudura - "to fawn"; Albanian "gudutis"
guşă - "goiter", "crop"; Albanian "gush
" (with the same meaning or meaning "Adam's apple") (Note: both Albanian and Romanian may originate from the Latin "geusiae")
a licări/licuri - "to sparkle"
mal - "bank", "shore"; Albanian "mal" (meaning mountain), "Mal i Zi" = "Montenegro" (Albanian "zi" black)
mare - "big"
mazăre - "pea"; Albanian "modhull
"
măgar - "donkey"; Albanian "magar"
măgură - "hill"; Albanian "magul
"
mălai - "corn flour" (perhaps derived from mei "millet", Albanian "mel")
mămăligă - "corn mush" (perhaps derived from mălai)
mărar - "dill"; Albanian "m raj", Greek "marathron"
mătrăgună - "mountain laurel"; Albanian "mat rgon
"
mătură - "broom"
''m nz'' - "colt"; Albanian "m s"
''m nzare'' - "sheep giving milk"; Albanian "m zore"
''m
ţă - "cat", "kitten"; Albanian "mace"
mire/mireasă'' - "groom"/"bride"; Albanian "mir
" (meaning good)
a (se) mişca - "to move"
moaşă - "midwife"; same origin as moş
molid - "spruce fir"; Albanian "molik
"
moş - "old man"; in Albanian "mosha" = age, "moshuar" = of old age
motan - "tomcat"
mugur - "bud" (biol.); Albanian "mugull"
murg - "bay" (color), "bay horse"; Albanian "murg"
a muşca - "to bite"
pală - (hay) "quantity of hay held by a pitchfork", (wind) "breeze"
păstaie - "pod", "seedcase"; Albanian "pista
", "bishtaj
"
''p u, p rău'' - "brook"; Albanian "p rrua" (and/or from the Romanian "r u", which originates from the Latin word "rivus")
prunc - "baby"
raţă - "duck"; Albanian "ros
" (also Serbo-Croat "raca", Friulian "raze", Basque "eratz")
a răbda - "to endure"
răgaz - "rest", "respite"
''r nză'' - "gizzard", "stomach"; Albanian "rr s"
''s mbure - "stone", "pit"; Albanian "sumbull", "thumbull"
a speria - "to scare" (or from the Latin word espavorare)
st nă - "sheepfold"; in Albanian "stan" means "dairy", "dairy farm"
st ncă - "rock"
strugure - "grape"
tare - "hard" or "loud" (or from the Latin word talem)
ţap - "he-goat"; Albanian "cjap", Serbo-Croat "cap"
ţarc - "fold", "pen"; Albanian "carc", "thark"
ţăruş - "stake", "picket"; in Albanian "thur" means "to knit"
ţeapă - "pole", "pale", "stake"; in Albanian "thep" means "sharp peak"
ţugui - "peak", "point"
urdă - "soft cottage cheese" (incorporating whey)
varză - "cabbage" (or from the Latin word viridia)
veveriţă - "squirrel" (or from the Slavonic word veverica)
viezure'' - a wild forest animal like a ferret or marten (badger); Albanian "viedhull
und und und..............Leute hört auf immer so ein Schwachsinn zu erzählen , außerdem ihr bringt nirgends Beweise von wegen das die Albaner=keine Illyrer wären , weil es keine gibt , also ihr seht es wird immer schmerzlicher , wenn ihr es immer noch nicht kapiert habt dann weiss ich auch nicht mehr was ich dazu sagen soll .
