behinderte in balkan ??

[Bambi]

wie seht ihr es mit den behinderten
bzw wie werden behinderte in balkan aufgenommen...haben die einen niedrigeren stellenwert als andere
werden solche geheiratet oder haben die kein funktionswert somit kein wert
ja sam odrasla u njemacku und bin ein misch masch und hab somit keine kenntniss darüber
wie ist es in euren ländern diesbezüglich?
lg

u njemackoj, heißt es. Ich bin immer froh, wenn ich korrigiert werde und was dazulerne.

OT: Die Leute unten gucken bei sowas schon mehr. Generell gaffen sie -bei egal was- schon offener als hierzulande. Und in Puncto kompetente, fachliche Einrichtungen für Behinderte liegen auch Welten zwischen Deutschland und den Ex-Yu-Ländern.

 

[BlackJack]

Letztens gab es ein tolles interview über eine Dame die die erste Angestellte in MK mit dem Down-Syndrom ist


Јулијана ги урива бариерите: Првата Македонка со Даунов синдром која се вработи!


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28 годишната Јулијана работи во печатница. Ведра и вредна, таа има мисија - да ги урне бариерите.

Приказната за Јулијана, првата девојка од Македонија со Даунов синдром која се вработи, ја пренесе Дневник.

- Сакам да ги урнам бариерите. Сакам да работам, да бидам своја. Да имам мој личен успех, а тоа е мојата работа, но и моето образование. Завршив средно училиште за графичар, работам во печатница, па веќе шест години секој ден доаѓам на работа. Kако и секоја девојка на 28 години, обожавам шопинг, на тоа ја трошам својата плата. Но, секако, знам дека треба и да штедам, па имам моја книшка. Моја желба е да станам главна во фирмата, засега сум само помошник-графичар. Јас тоа го можам, знам странски јазик – српски, го научив од серии на телевизија, ама и многу сум вредна, сакам да работам - вака себеси се гледа во иднина Јулијана Петровска.

Јулијана има медал за пливање, неколку успешни концерти на пијано, куса манекенска кариера и со силна амбиција - пренесува Дневник.

- Со оглед на тоа дека и како семејство сме дел од основачите на специјалната олимпијада во Македонија, се обидуваме да им помогнеме и на другите што имаат деца со пречки во развојот. Секако, се за доброто на децата, вели Љупчо, таткото на Јуле.

- Луѓето со Даунов синдром се весели, комуникативни и активни.Можат да бидат извонредни уметници, поети, вредни работници, но и големи пријатели. Тие се инспирација, вели за Дневник Росица Kолева, дефектолог и член на здружението „Тризомија 21“ .

Јулијана со својот пример покажува дека сите бариери, и сопствените, можат да се прескокнат!

ja, ein Interview in mazedonischer Sprache und kyrillischer Schrift

 

[H3llas]

allgemein-> jemand der kein geld hat, wird weniger respektiert auf dem balkan...

 

[Zoran]

ja, ein Interview in mazedonischer Sprache und kyrillischer Schrift

Tja mei, musst halt makedonisch lernen o. zumindest wie man das translate Tool vanwendet.


Aleksandar – The Great
UNIVERSITY OF SKOPJE AND DOWN SYNDROME – WHY NOT?
by Kristina Ozimec, Charlotte Funke and Ivana Petrusevska

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Aleksandar – The Great
UNIVERSITY OF SKOPJE AND DOWN SYNDROME – WHY NOT?

by Kristina Ozimec, Charlotte Funke and Ivana Petrusevska

Everyday he beats all predictions and visions that doctors and people had about him. With two poetry books and a brown belt in karate, this 21 year-old young man is breaking barriers everyday. Aleksandar is the first college student with Down Syndrome in Macedonia.
Amazing people come in the most unusual packages. Huge smile, greenish eyes and a big hug. Catching up is easy to do with Aleksandar who kisses and hugs almost everyone in his new student environment, the Pedagogic Faculty in Skopje. Yellowish leafs and beautiful landscape cover the yard of the faculty where he goes to everyday. Autumn arrived.
„I love this place. Imagine in my whole class I‘m the only boy. How can faculty not be fun? jokes Aleksandar, who became the first student with Down Syndrome that was enrolled in a Macedonian university. Many people pass by the faculty campus and most of them know him. One of these people is the faculty Dean, Vlado Timovski, who proudly says that Aleksandar is one of his best students. Most of the time he is more devoted and responsible than the others when it comes to exams.

Family is the key
His mother, Snežana who works at the faculty, says that the whole family is very proud of him. One day she hopes that he will become a pre-school teacher. The love, hard work and compassion of his family were the key to Aleksandar´s success. She says that they never thought he´d get this far.
The persistance of this amazing family to teach Aleksandar that he won’t get special treatment in life from people just because he has Down Syndrome, made him the man he is today. Even when doctors or people told Mrs. Snezana that her boy will be limited in certain aspects of life, she says they continued to work on his education. Throughout the years there were many situations where Aleksandar was treated as different. Once she went with him to the pool and she knew the woman who worked there, who told her to pay only one ticket, because for Aleksandar it will be free. “Afterwards he got really mad about not paying.He asked me, ´why am I so different that I can’t pay like everyone else´?“, tells Mrs. Snežana.

His strength lies in love
Three times a week Aleksandar trains karate. A small basement, Aleksandar and some kids from the neighbourhood. This evening, Aleksandar leads the warm-up. His movements are precise, after every step his feet hit the ground in the exact angle. Aleksandar breaths deeply, he is concentrated and absolutely under control. His eyes focus an invisible point at the wall, he gathers the power for the next jump, kick or strike. When he was twelve years old, he noticed that his karate teacher hesitated to teach him. “I will not make you any problems here“, were the words that he told his trainer the first time they saw each other. “Then I couldn’t resist taking him in the group”, his trainer says.
Even though he trained karate, in high school Aleksandar often got pushed around or beaten up by other kids who saw him as an easy target. Most of them didn´t know that he trains anything because Aleksandar would never fight back. He would never hurt anyone. Even during training when his karate trainer pushes him to the maximum and says “stronger, hit harder“ he only whispers “but I don’t want to hurt him”. His brown karate belt is only a trophy for him, because Aleksandar‘s motto is love. His message is hidden somewhere in his poetry, which is another passion of his. Maybe it’s on his new book cover where he says:
“This book belongs to all people with a good heart. And to everyone else! So they can understand that people with Down Syndrome can live and create. Let them come into my colorful world, which is a world for everybody”.
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INTERVIEW: Rosica Koleva, inclusion specialist from “Sinolichka“ – Down Syndrome Association
Question:
Aleksandar Matovski (Cako) is an exceptional example for a person with Down syndrome that is included in society. Why arent there more succesfull examples like this?
Answer:
There are people with Down syndrome who attend mainstream schools, go to work in sheltered workshops and manage to function somewhat independently. Unfortunately, very few have the opportunity to go beyond typical expectations by, as in Cako’s case, enrolling in University or expressing themselves creatively (through poetry, painting), without the extensive support from their families.
Question:
Could every person with Down syndrome get to faculty and what conditions would be neccessary for this to happen?
Answer:
Just as in the case with typically-developing people, not everyone with Down syndrome can go to faculty. Due to the fact that Down syndrome is, among other things, accompanied by intellectual disability and the degree may vary from borderline to severe. The number of people with this condition pursuing undergraduate studies would be much lower than in the general population.
That is not to say that if appropriate conditions are provided, an intellectually higher-functioning person with Down syndrome is not able to cope with an academically more challenging environment. However, it is very difficult to talk about higher education when inclusive provisions are not properly introduced even at primary school-level. There is a lot more to be done in terms of curricular adaptations, teacher training and employment of specialist staff (Special Education Needs coordinators, Teaching Assistants) in Macedonian educational institutions.
Question:
What are the main difficulties for people with Down Syndrome in Macedonia?
Answer:
The issues are different, like for example heart surgeries, frequently needed due to the presence of cardiac problems in people Down syndrome, are mostly carried out abroad. We also have issues with social welfare because the eligibility criteria for receiving financial support from the state are ambiguous, and the educational inclusion exists merely on a physical level – children are admitted to mainstream schools without proper adjustments being made. Unemployment, which is a general issue in Macedonia, is particularly persistent among people with disabilities, but there is also lack of opportunities for adults with this condition to socialize and to have independent living.
Question:
What kind of discrimination do people with Down syndrome face?
Answer:
People with Down syndrome are not perceived negatively by the general population in Macedonia, though sometimes, an over-protective attitude towards them is adopted. I believe that discrimination mainly exists in the form of having low expectations and focusing on their weaknesses rather than potentials.
Question:
What do defectologysts do and why they are important for the education of these young students?
Answer:
The defectologysts have a crucial role in facilitating the process of inclusion by working one-on-one with pupils, devising Individual Education Plans, working with teachers on differentiating the curriculum and the methods of instruction and collaborating with the parents. There are many qualified Special Needs educators in Macedonia, though their role can be perceived as somewhat obscure, since the training of these professionals is heavily based on the medical features (only) of various disabilities. Still, only a few of them end up working in medical institutions (such as the Centre for Mental Health or the Department of Pediatrics), while the rest are employed in special schools, NGOs or work as freelance teaching assistants to children who are included in mainstream schools (and as such are paid by the parents).
A small number have been working in the past two years as mobile special teachers providing services to all the schools within a municipality, but the effectiveness of this service model is yet to be evaluated. Some municipalities have begun to employ more specialists so that better coverage of the schools is ensured, but in order for real progress to take place, inclusive policies and practices ought to be adopted on a national level.

 

[Ibrišimović]

Apropos Down-Syndrom vor ner Weile hab ich im kroatischen TV was dazu gesehen, da wurde so ein Integrationsprogramm gezeigt, wo die Behinderten in Großküchen und Supermärkten gearbeitet haben.

 

[Diametralis]

Körperlich Behinderte haben alleine unterwegs keine Chance (Gehsteige, ÖV etc.).

 

[BlackJack]

Also was Zuschüsse angeht ist Cro jedenfalls oben auf, der jüngste Sohn meiner Tante ist behindert, und sie kriegen richtig viel Geld für ihn (sie pflegen ihn selber) ohne dieses Geld wären sie mit ihren Minirenten aufgeschmissen

 

[Bambi]

Körperlich Behinderte haben alleine unterwegs keine Chance (Gehsteige, ÖV etc.).

ist ja selbst hier teils noch so. Jahrelang gab es in der Stadt meiner Eltern (immerhin Kreisstadt und 40.000 Einwohner) am hbf keinen einzigen Lift, oder Rampen, nur Treppen. Und ironischerweise ist 20 km entfernt eine der größten Behinderteneinrichtungen Deutschlands

 

[Diametralis]

Rampen, Lift? Was?

Tu zdrav i prav da prebijes vratinu.

 

[Bambi]

Rampen, Lift? Was?

Musst mal die Seitengässchen in meiner Nachbarschaft unten sehen, Straßenpflasterung was ist das? Und bei den Rekordsommern in Mostar schmilzt der Asphalt auch ganz gern vor sich hin, prima zum Stadtbummeln