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Das bestätigt meine aussage, für einen toten israelischen Soldaten müssen 1000 Palästinenser sterben damit es gerecht ist.
Dann wäre der Gazastreifen aber bald leergefegt. Da würden nicht mal mehr die Palästinenser mit ihrer Geburtenrate, die Papst Benedikt vor Neid erblassen lassen sollte, hinterherkommen.

Auch ein Unrechtsstaat wie Israel wird bald mit einem Dolch im Herz halbtot am Boden liegen.
Wo kriegt ihr immer nur diese bekloppten Sprüche her? Aus dem Poesieabreißkalender im örtlichen Dönerimbiss? Ehre, Reinheit, Dolche... :spinnt:
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kann schon seinn das sich unter den 1027 auch terroristen befinden, aber eins ist sicher die meisten unter denen , sind harmlose steinwefer, die rechtlich gesehen überhaupt nicht in einen ghefägniss gehören,
Klar, wahrscheinlich waren sie nur auf dem Weg zum Zigarettenholen als sie plötzlich von einem Dutzend bis an die Zähne bewaffneter jüdischer Kampfroboter überfallen und eingekerkert wurden.

nur leider gibt es keine rechte für palestineser in Israel..
Gar keine Rechte, diese armen palestineser. Im Gegensatz zu der Menge an Grundrechten, auf die man sich als Einwohner eines von der Hamas regierten Territoriums berufen könnte.
Schn lustig, das mit den Menschenrechten... Einmal sind das westliche Erfindungen, die mit der islamischen Tradition unvereinbar sein sollen, mal klagt man sie ein...
 
Klar, wahrscheinlich waren sie nur auf dem Weg zum Zigarettenholen als sie plötzlich von einem Dutzend bis an die Zähne bewaffneter jüdischer Kampfroboter überfallen und eingekerkert wurden.
könnte auch so augbelaufen sein, ist auch oft vorgekommen, das israelis solche wie Gilat , einfache bürger palestinäsischer herkunft, brutal verhaftet haben und ab ins gefägniss.. und dein sakasmus kannst du dir sonst wohen stecken, kleiner rotznase du..
 
Klar, wahrscheinlich waren sie nur auf dem Weg zum Zigarettenholen als sie plötzlich von einem Dutzend bis an die Zähne bewaffneter jüdischer Kampfroboter überfallen und eingekerkert wurden.

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209. Since 1967, about 750,000 Palestinians have been detained at some point by the
Government of Israel, according to Palestinian human rights organizations. Currently, there are
approximately 8,100 Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons and detention centres, roughly 550 of
whom are administrative detainees. 63 Administrative detention is detention without charge or
trial, authorized by an administrative order rather than by judicial decree.
The conditions of
Palestinians in Israeli detention facilities have been the subject of considerable international
criticism, including concerns of torture and other ill-treatment.

(...)

1452. The Mission received information that during the Israeli military operations in Gaza the
numbers of children from the West Bank detained by Israel increased. According to Defence for
Children International – Palestine Section (DCI), the monthly figures for January and February
were 389 and 423, compared with 327 and 307 for these months last year and a monthly average
of 319 for 2008. Many of these children were reportedly arrested on the street and/or during
demonstrations. 796 DCI also found that the average age of children detained changed: for the age
range 12-15, the percentage of children is usually 23%; in January-February 2009 it was 36%. 797
DCI in January-March represented 69 children in the Israeli Military Court. As of 20 June 2009, eight of these children were released without charge, while among the 61 charged, 47 were
sentenced and 14 are still awaiting trial.

1453. DCI found there was a change in the percentages of children charged with particular
offences in the first three months of 2009, as follows: in 2008, 27% of children were charged
with throwing stones,
as opposed to 61% in the period covered by the report. “During OCL, the
army didn’t want to lose control of the West Bank, so they came down like a tonne of bricks on
demonstrations.” 799 DCI concludes “The fact that many of these children were younger than the
average child detainee and the fact that the majority were charged with minor offences suggest
that this increase is the result of children’s participation in a high number of demonstrations in
the West Bank during Operation Cast Lead, and the increased use of force, including mass arrest,
by Israeli authorities to suppress and discourage these protests.”

1493. One of the cases recorded by DCI is summarized as follows:
“Ahmad Q: 15-year-old boy arrested on 1 January 2009 and accused of throwing
stones.

(...)

1497. In a statement issued in support of the DCI report, Unicef, the World Health
Organisation, OHCHR and local and international child protection agencies (together, the “1612
Child Protection Group”), stated that, “Israeli military courts violate many basic fair trial rights
according to international humanitarian and human rights law … For example, in almost all
cases, the primary evidence used to convict children is a confession obtained through coercive
interrogations carried out in the absence of a lawyer. The most common charge made against
children was stone-throwing (about 27%), which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years. ....

With the potential for harsh sentences, approximately 95% of cases end in the child pleading
guilty, whether the offence was committed or not.”

(...)

1498. On 5 August 2009, the BBC News website reported that a former Israeli military
commander had told the BBC that Palestinian youngsters are routinely ill-treated by Israeli
soldiers while in custody. The website item included a video of a young Palestinian boy being
arrested at night. 807 Col. Efrati, who left the army five months previously, said: “I never arrested
anyone younger than nine or 10, but 14, 13, 11 for me, they're still kids. But they're arrested like
adults. Every soldier who was in the Occupied Territories can tell you the same story. The first
months after I left the army I dreamed about kids all the time. Jewish kids. Arab kids.
Screaming.” 808 Efrati added, “Maybe [the kid is] blindfolded for him not to see the base and how
we’re working... But I believe maybe we put the blindfold because we don't want to see his eyes.
You don’t want him to look at us - you know, beg us to stop, or cry in front of us. It’s a lot easier
if we don’t see his eyes.”

...

...

According to the IPA, the Ketziot prison holds 2,200 Palestinian 'security prisoners', ie. political prisoners, a proportion of which are 'administrative prisoners', meaning persons who have been imprisoned without trial.

In January 2011 8 children between 12 and 15 of age were inmates in the Ofer prison and 2 in the Megiddo prison. 85 children between the ages of 16 and 17 were detained in the Ofer prison, 66 in the Megiddo prison and 3 in the Kishon prison. According to the organisation Defence for Children International, children in Israeli prisons are often interrogated without the presence of a lawyer or a relative, and the children are often threatened or physically coerced to confess or sign documents which they do not comprehend.
 
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Das bestätigt meine aussage, für einen toten israelischen Soldaten müssen 1000 Palästinenser sterben damit es gerecht ist.






.

Welche aussage denn?
Deine aussage ist nichts wert.

Die lassen 1027 Palästinenser frei,für EINEN Israeli und du suchst wieder nach den Haken und kommst mit Rassistischem gedankengut an. Wie z.b. das 1 Jude wertvoller ist als 1000 Araber.

Jetzt stelle ich dir eine Frage.
Hätten die Hamas oder überhaupt Palästinenser 1 Israeli für einen araber hergegeben? Nein!
Also finden die araber selber,das ein israeli wertvoller ist als eintausend araber.
 
Shalit deal should change Israel's stance toward Hamas

Even in the midst of the prisoner deal, efforts at brainwashing and sowing fear along with demonization and dehumanization continued in all their strength and ugliness.

By Gideon Levy
| Published 02:38 23.10.11 | Latest update 02:38 23.10.11

They told us Hamas is a bloodthirsty gang. They told us there was no one to negotiate with. They told us that Israeli military intelligence was the best in the world and that we know everything there is to know about that cruel gang (but not where Gilad Shalit was being held ). And lo and behold, the most right-wing government in the country's history conducted serious negotiations with this fundamentalist gang and came to a serious agreement with it. And if that's not enough, it turns out the "gang" kept its word.

But let's not get too excited. Israel can be counted on not to shake things up as a result of the Shalit deal in how it relates to Hamas. The sea remains the same, the Arabs remain the same, and Hamas remains the same in the eyes of Israel (and the United States ) even after the agreement.
A freed Hamas prisoner returning home to Gaza.
Photo by: Reuters



Israel can be counted on not to change a thing in its way of thinking, because even in the midst of the prisoner deal, efforts at brainwashing and sowing fear along with demonization and dehumanization continued in all their strength and ugliness. All 1,027 of the prisoners are to be seen as human monsters and the release of every one of them, including 82-year-old Sami Younis, constitutes a walking danger.

Any effort to understand the joy of the families of the released Palestinian prisoners, some after decades in jail, is encountered with derision and flashes of nationalistic hatred. Only Shalit has a family and the only joy is in Israel. Every television anchor ran off at the mouth with obscenities at the sight of the celebrations in Gaza. Just imagine what would have happened if even one announcer tried to state the opposite: that maybe it was good that, for the first time, there was joy in both Gaza and in Shalit's community of Mitzpeh Hila.

Anyone who tried to argue that both sides have blood on their hands, and that there were those Palestinian prisoners who were sentenced to cruel and totally disproportionate jail terms, was pilloried. Or that their prison conditions were unbearably harsh, without furloughs or even one phone call over a period of decades and sometimes without family visits for years. That in Israel you can murder seven Palestinians and get frequent furloughs. Or set up a Jewish terror underground and get out in a flash. Or smash the skulls of bound and shackled terrorists and be granted a pardon without a trial. In this same county where the rule of law prevails, someone who transported a terrorist to his attack must sit in jail for life, while someone who kills a Palestinian is sometimes even spared a trial.

All 1,027 prisoners in the Shalit deal are "murderers." Have you every heard about a "Jewish murderer?" Ami Popper, for example, who killed seven Arabs waiting on a corner in 1990? Yoram Skolnick isn't a "murderer." He murdered a shackled Palestinian and was released after less than eight years in prison. An Israeli Arab, Karim Younis, who provided transportation to Maher Younis who in turn killed a soldier, has been sitting in jail for 29 years without a single furlough, without a single phone call, even without any reduction in his sentence. Similarly Israeli Arab Walid Daka isn't even allowed conjugal visits with his wife. But who would dare mention these things amid the wave of self-adulation?

Our hearts have gone out to the feelings of the bereaved families whose loved ones were murdered by terrorists released in the Shalit prisoner exchange. But what about the bereaved Palestinian families whose loved ones were murdered by Israelis, who either never stood trial or served ridiculously short prison terms? How should they feel? Don't even raise the question.

Amid the outpouring of joy in Israel, which is understandable and justified, it would have been possible to take a humane look at the other side, too, even if for a moment. There are human beings there, too, including some of the prisoners and their families, who have feelings and rights. It would have been appropriate if some of the prisoners were never released from prison, but there are also those who should have been let go long ago, if only equality had prevailed in the Israeli justice system.

Also if only wisdom had prevailed, because then the prisoner exchange should have become a means to change the atmosphere. What would have happened if the group of women prisoners who were erroneously not included in the deal had been set free? And what would have happened if prominent Palestinian prisoners Marwan Barghouti and Ahmed Sa'adat had also been released, in a gesture to the moderate camp? And what can Israel tell those now calling for other Israeli soldiers to be abducted? That the prospect exists that Palestinians serving life terms could be set free by other means?

Anyone who raises these thorny questions meets the same response. We have only one single, irreplaceable truth.

Quelle: http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...-change-israel-s-stance-toward-hamas-1.391451
 
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