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"Komödienstadel SDSM" Branko holt alte Garde wieder an Bord!
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Zoran
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No, keine Lust auf dem Balkan nur ansatzweise was mit aktiver Politik zu machen. Meine einzige politische Aktivität ist das ich meine Meinung über die politische Parteien habe und ihre Aktivitäten verfolge.
Pozdrav :mk1:
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Zoran
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Zoran
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Man who sold daughters in Greece would accept North or Upper
Thursday, 31 May 2012
MINA Breaking News
Tito Petkovski, a former frontman for SDSM and current leader of NSDP in coalition with Branko Crvenkovski from the Parliament podium stated himself and Crvenkovski would like to see a geographical term in front of the name of the country thus aligning with Athens positions on the name issue.
Tito Petkovski is an interesting man. He insisted and ensure both of his daughters married in Greece, both to very wealthy Greek businessmen. The NSDP leader never really hid his political connection to Athens.
For two days now we have witnessed a bizarre set of events. The gloves are off in it that Crvenkovski and now his closest associates publicly state the country should bow to Greece and rename itself.
It would only be fair if Crvenkovski and Petkovski share the money they are receiving from Athens with their constituents who share the same opinion, whoever they are.
According to Tito Petkovski, both terms Upper and North were good if you ask him. Luckily, no one is asking him.
Thursday, 31 May 2012
MINA Breaking News
Sie haben keine Berechtigung Anhänge anzusehen. Anhänge sind ausgeblendet.
Tito Petkovski, a former frontman for SDSM and current leader of NSDP in coalition with Branko Crvenkovski from the Parliament podium stated himself and Crvenkovski would like to see a geographical term in front of the name of the country thus aligning with Athens positions on the name issue.
Tito Petkovski is an interesting man. He insisted and ensure both of his daughters married in Greece, both to very wealthy Greek businessmen. The NSDP leader never really hid his political connection to Athens.
For two days now we have witnessed a bizarre set of events. The gloves are off in it that Crvenkovski and now his closest associates publicly state the country should bow to Greece and rename itself.
It would only be fair if Crvenkovski and Petkovski share the money they are receiving from Athens with their constituents who share the same opinion, whoever they are.
According to Tito Petkovski, both terms Upper and North were good if you ask him. Luckily, no one is asking him.
Zoran
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PM Gruevski: Crvenkovski included identity issue into talks with Greece
PM Gruevski: Crvenkovski included identity issue into talks with Greece
SDSM leader Branko Crvenkovski's statement that he stands for a solution to the name issue, which will not threaten Macedonia's national identity is hypocritical, as he was the one who accepted such a proposal for settling the dispute, presented by (UN-mediator) Matthew Nimetz in 2005,Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski told reporters on Friday. He (Crvenkovski) also knows that Greece has for a long period of time set its positions meddling with the identity into concrete, the PM said.
"In 2005 Crvenkovski accepted one of Matthew Nimetz's proposals, which presented a threat to our identity. I clearly stood against it then. There are records that only VMRO-DPMNE pointed out that the proposal was problematic for the Macedonian identity, language. But SDSM declared it as the best thus far and embraced it, while we were fiercely criticized for our objection. Now, as a leader of the opposition SDSM, he acts in rather hypocritical manner by giving such statements, when he personally six, seven years ago accepted something that was endangering our identity," Gruevski said.
He pointed out that Greece's position on the matter was clear and set into concrete.
There is no indications for any changes in this respect, as Greece is in a chaos over its financial crisis, Gruevski said.
"They do not even consider to take different stance in the talks, which may be seen by the last stenogram of their leaders' meeting. So they sternly hold to their position, which doesn't refer only to altering the name of the country, but also of the nation and language," Gruevski said.
SDSM always ready to sell country
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In 2005, SDSM officials agreed to a Nimetz proposal to change the name of the country to "Republika Makedonija", instead of "Republic of Macedonia". The nationality column was blank, while the langugae was called "makedk" or "macedc" instead of "Macedonian" which is already set in stone at the UN or at least until SDSM officials (Ilinka Mitrevska, Vlado Buckovski and Branko Crvenkovski) decide otherwise.
In 2005 SDSM agreed the nationality should state "Citizen of Republika Makedonija", instead of "Macedonian".
SDSM officials managed to somehow convince the smaller parties that "Republika Makedonija would be a temporary solutions, only for 30 days, after which the country would be known as Republic of Macedonia.
According to Branko Crvenkovski, Fyr Macedonia was also only a 30 day solution back in 1992, after he filled his coffers with cash from Athens.
VMRO DPMNE and Gruevski which were part of the opposition abruptly left the meeting organized by Crvenkovski and the SDSM back in 2005. Not surprisingly, 2005 was the last year the SDSM was in power.
The ruling Government accused Crvenkovski and the SDSM that his party is responsible for inserting the 'language' and 'nationality' into the negotiations process.
On a lighter note, the documents shown here are marked as top secret, Crvenkovski showed them to the public believing this would earn him political points. Instead, Republika Makedonija, makedk... and the fact he took a top secret document to the public may earn him jail time.
PM: Document reveals Crvenkovski acepted unfavorable proposal
Wednesday, 30 May 2012
It is natural for a person, who has been dealing with speculations, manipulations on daily bases, to trick oneself at a certain point and to be enable now to come out of the mess, Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski responded Wednesday to journalists' request to comment the claims of opposition leader Branko Crvenkovski related to 2005 proposal of UN mediator Matthew Nimetz for the name row settling.
Now he is inviting me to a TV duel in an attempt to save himself, the PM said.
"Yesterday, the citizens were able to see the data, documents he presented, which show that the particular proposal has serious defects in regard to the language, nationality, being rather problematic and unclear," Gruevski said.
Gruevski said he was still wondering why Crvenkovski accepted such a proposal, already being rejected by Greece.
It is not good that Crvenkovski has been using this matter for gaining political points on daily basis, because the name, identity, nationality issues are of strategic significance for Macedonia, the PM said.
"If he is a responsible politician he should not publicly present top secret state documents and reveal details, as by doing so he in a way additionally undermines Macedonia's position. Such matters should be a subject of discussion of politicians to seek best solutions for the state and its citizens, not to exchange accusations via media and score political points on daily basis," Gruevski said.
Црвенковски му оставил лист хартија на Поповски
понеделник, 04 јуни 2012, 19:09
Документот на Бранко Црвенковски е лист хартија на кој нема никаков печат или класифицирана назнака. Листот на кој се напишани некои од предлозите за името на државата, а кој СДСМ и јавно го објави, преку новинарот Роберт Поповски е предаден кај надлежните институции. Поповски за Алфа потврди дека дал изјава во Дирекцијата за класифицирани информации.
Изјавата дадена во дирекцијата ќе ја користи и јавното обвинителство. Очекувано е Поповски да не биде повикан од јавен обвинител со оглед дека листот нема назнака „државна тајна“ и дека обвинителството е можно да се откаже од понатамошна истрага затоа што листот на Црвенковски е објавен и анализиран уште пред 7 години.
За разлика од документот на Црвенковски, документот што го објави државната МИА има и печати и класифицирани назнаки. Скопскиот јавен обвинител очекува денеска до утре агенцијата да му го достави документот. Со оглед дека телевизискиот документ станува депласиран, можно е да нема одговорност за Црвенковски. За објавата на МИА допрва ќе се изјаснат надлежните.
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PM Gruevski: Crvenkovski included identity issue into talks with Greece
SDSM leader Branko Crvenkovski's statement that he stands for a solution to the name issue, which will not threaten Macedonia's national identity is hypocritical, as he was the one who accepted such a proposal for settling the dispute, presented by (UN-mediator) Matthew Nimetz in 2005,Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski told reporters on Friday. He (Crvenkovski) also knows that Greece has for a long period of time set its positions meddling with the identity into concrete, the PM said.
"In 2005 Crvenkovski accepted one of Matthew Nimetz's proposals, which presented a threat to our identity. I clearly stood against it then. There are records that only VMRO-DPMNE pointed out that the proposal was problematic for the Macedonian identity, language. But SDSM declared it as the best thus far and embraced it, while we were fiercely criticized for our objection. Now, as a leader of the opposition SDSM, he acts in rather hypocritical manner by giving such statements, when he personally six, seven years ago accepted something that was endangering our identity," Gruevski said.
He pointed out that Greece's position on the matter was clear and set into concrete.
There is no indications for any changes in this respect, as Greece is in a chaos over its financial crisis, Gruevski said.
"They do not even consider to take different stance in the talks, which may be seen by the last stenogram of their leaders' meeting. So they sternly hold to their position, which doesn't refer only to altering the name of the country, but also of the nation and language," Gruevski said.
SDSM always ready to sell country
.jpg)
In 2005, SDSM officials agreed to a Nimetz proposal to change the name of the country to "Republika Makedonija", instead of "Republic of Macedonia". The nationality column was blank, while the langugae was called "makedk" or "macedc" instead of "Macedonian" which is already set in stone at the UN or at least until SDSM officials (Ilinka Mitrevska, Vlado Buckovski and Branko Crvenkovski) decide otherwise.
In 2005 SDSM agreed the nationality should state "Citizen of Republika Makedonija", instead of "Macedonian".
SDSM officials managed to somehow convince the smaller parties that "Republika Makedonija would be a temporary solutions, only for 30 days, after which the country would be known as Republic of Macedonia.
According to Branko Crvenkovski, Fyr Macedonia was also only a 30 day solution back in 1992, after he filled his coffers with cash from Athens.
VMRO DPMNE and Gruevski which were part of the opposition abruptly left the meeting organized by Crvenkovski and the SDSM back in 2005. Not surprisingly, 2005 was the last year the SDSM was in power.
The ruling Government accused Crvenkovski and the SDSM that his party is responsible for inserting the 'language' and 'nationality' into the negotiations process.
On a lighter note, the documents shown here are marked as top secret, Crvenkovski showed them to the public believing this would earn him political points. Instead, Republika Makedonija, makedk... and the fact he took a top secret document to the public may earn him jail time.
PM: Document reveals Crvenkovski acepted unfavorable proposal
Wednesday, 30 May 2012
It is natural for a person, who has been dealing with speculations, manipulations on daily bases, to trick oneself at a certain point and to be enable now to come out of the mess, Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski responded Wednesday to journalists' request to comment the claims of opposition leader Branko Crvenkovski related to 2005 proposal of UN mediator Matthew Nimetz for the name row settling.
Now he is inviting me to a TV duel in an attempt to save himself, the PM said.
"Yesterday, the citizens were able to see the data, documents he presented, which show that the particular proposal has serious defects in regard to the language, nationality, being rather problematic and unclear," Gruevski said.
Gruevski said he was still wondering why Crvenkovski accepted such a proposal, already being rejected by Greece.
It is not good that Crvenkovski has been using this matter for gaining political points on daily basis, because the name, identity, nationality issues are of strategic significance for Macedonia, the PM said.
"If he is a responsible politician he should not publicly present top secret state documents and reveal details, as by doing so he in a way additionally undermines Macedonia's position. Such matters should be a subject of discussion of politicians to seek best solutions for the state and its citizens, not to exchange accusations via media and score political points on daily basis," Gruevski said.
Црвенковски му оставил лист хартија на Поповски
понеделник, 04 јуни 2012, 19:09
Документот на Бранко Црвенковски е лист хартија на кој нема никаков печат или класифицирана назнака. Листот на кој се напишани некои од предлозите за името на државата, а кој СДСМ и јавно го објави, преку новинарот Роберт Поповски е предаден кај надлежните институции. Поповски за Алфа потврди дека дал изјава во Дирекцијата за класифицирани информации.
Изјавата дадена во дирекцијата ќе ја користи и јавното обвинителство. Очекувано е Поповски да не биде повикан од јавен обвинител со оглед дека листот нема назнака „државна тајна“ и дека обвинителството е можно да се откаже од понатамошна истрага затоа што листот на Црвенковски е објавен и анализиран уште пред 7 години.
За разлика од документот на Црвенковски, документот што го објави државната МИА има и печати и класифицирани назнаки. Скопскиот јавен обвинител очекува денеска до утре агенцијата да му го достави документот. Со оглед дека телевизискиот документ станува депласиран, можно е да нема одговорност за Црвенковски. За објавата на МИА допрва ќе се изјаснат надлежните.
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Zoran
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Das ist eine Frage die ich mir sehr oft stelle, wo ist das Geld hin? 15 Jahre SDSM Regierung... EU, KFOR, NATO, Gelder sind nach MK in Hülle und Fülle gekommen
Каде завршуваа парите во време на СДСМ кога не се градеше ништо?!
ВМРО – ДПМÐ�Е » Каде завршуваа парите во време на СДСМ кога не Ñ�е градеше ништо?!
Oбјавено на 06.06.2012 од ВМРО-ДПМНЕ
Каде завршуваа парите во време на СДСМ кога не се градеше ништо?! Ова е главното прашање.
Од СДСМ не обвинуваат дека сме граделе.
Да ние градиме. Го градиме булеварот СВ Климент Охридски. Го изградивме и проширивме булеварот Илинденска. Се реконстуира и прошири булеварот Теодосиј Гоглоганов.
Малку подоле е новата зграда на министерството за земјоделие, која е во завршна фаза на изградба. До нејзе е доизградениот стадион Арена Филип 2. За прв пат Скопје и Македонија добија спортски објект како што заслужуваат граѓаните.
Целосно го реконструиравме и мостот Гоце Делчев од мојата десна страна.
Ја направивме и жичарницата до Водно. Ние го спроведовме проектот за реновирање 12 средни училишта во Скопје. Направивме и спортски центар Борис Трајковски.
Сето ова што го наброивме е само мал дел од она што е изградено во Скопје и Македонија. Ова е направено само за неколку години. СДСМ беа 15 години на власт, не памтиме ниту еден крупен проект што го направија. Каде завршуваа овие пари во време на СДСМ? Тогаш немаше пари ниту за изградба и реконструкција на булевари, ниту за спортски објекти, ниту за субвенции, ниту за здравство, ниту за образование.
Вистинското прашање е каде одеа овие пари кога СДСМ беше на власт?!
Каде завршуваа парите во време на СДСМ кога не се градеше ништо?!
ВМРО – ДПМÐ�Е » Каде завршуваа парите во време на СДСМ кога не Ñ�е градеше ништо?!
Oбјавено на 06.06.2012 од ВМРО-ДПМНЕ
Каде завршуваа парите во време на СДСМ кога не се градеше ништо?! Ова е главното прашање.
Од СДСМ не обвинуваат дека сме граделе.
Да ние градиме. Го градиме булеварот СВ Климент Охридски. Го изградивме и проширивме булеварот Илинденска. Се реконстуира и прошири булеварот Теодосиј Гоглоганов.
Малку подоле е новата зграда на министерството за земјоделие, која е во завршна фаза на изградба. До нејзе е доизградениот стадион Арена Филип 2. За прв пат Скопје и Македонија добија спортски објект како што заслужуваат граѓаните.
Целосно го реконструиравме и мостот Гоце Делчев од мојата десна страна.
Ја направивме и жичарницата до Водно. Ние го спроведовме проектот за реновирање 12 средни училишта во Скопје. Направивме и спортски центар Борис Трајковски.
Сето ова што го наброивме е само мал дел од она што е изградено во Скопје и Македонија. Ова е направено само за неколку години. СДСМ беа 15 години на власт, не памтиме ниту еден крупен проект што го направија. Каде завршуваа овие пари во време на СДСМ? Тогаш немаше пари ниту за изградба и реконструкција на булевари, ниту за спортски објекти, ниту за субвенции, ниту за здравство, ниту за образование.
Вистинското прашање е каде одеа овие пари кога СДСМ беше на власт?!