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Naja,habt in der 89min. das 2:1 kassiert.
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John Toshack embarrassed with loss to Luxembourg
THURSDAY, 01 MARCH 2012 00:03 NEWS - INTERNATIONAL
Macedonian Football .com - Makedonski Fudbal .com - Macedonian Football (soccer) website | John Toshack embarrassed with loss to Luxembourg
John Toshack; photo: ffm.com.mkManager John Toshack called the Luxembourg defeat embarrassing, and was very disappointed with the lack of discipline exemplified by several of the players.
After the game in which Macedonia suffered a 2:1 loss against Luxembourg, manager John Toshack was not happy. Speaking to FFM's official website, Toshack stated, "I'm very disappointed with what happened in the match against Luxembourg. We suffered a loss by conceding a goal in the dying moments of the game, a loss that is embarrassing for me and not expected. What particularly worries me is that no discipline exists with several of the players. The second goal that we conceded came on a huge mistake that took place because of the lack of discipline. After our corner, we allowed the opponent to execute an easy counter attack, three on one, and score the second goal which proved to be the game winner."
Toshack also criticized the effort as he could not recognize some of the players with the mistakes they were making during the game. Toshack stated it felt like 5-6 players going up against 11 hungry and determined Luxembourg players.
The Macedonian manager went on to add, "In the 1st half, we played well and had a lead. At the beginning of the 2nd half, I replaced Demiri, Todorovski, and Grncarov and gave the other players a chance (everyone played except Dimitrovski) but the changes did not go well. We started four attacking minded players but the finishing was not good enough. We had two 100% chances near the end through Pandev and Despotovski but they could not convert those big opportunities."
In concluding, Toshack said, "I am particularly disappointed with the irresponsibility and undiscipline near the end of the match when several of the players acted childish, and from our ball, our corner, to allow the opponent to execute a quick counterattack to punish us in the last seconds of the match."
THURSDAY, 01 MARCH 2012 00:03 NEWS - INTERNATIONAL
Macedonian Football .com - Makedonski Fudbal .com - Macedonian Football (soccer) website | John Toshack embarrassed with loss to Luxembourg
John Toshack; photo: ffm.com.mkManager John Toshack called the Luxembourg defeat embarrassing, and was very disappointed with the lack of discipline exemplified by several of the players.
After the game in which Macedonia suffered a 2:1 loss against Luxembourg, manager John Toshack was not happy. Speaking to FFM's official website, Toshack stated, "I'm very disappointed with what happened in the match against Luxembourg. We suffered a loss by conceding a goal in the dying moments of the game, a loss that is embarrassing for me and not expected. What particularly worries me is that no discipline exists with several of the players. The second goal that we conceded came on a huge mistake that took place because of the lack of discipline. After our corner, we allowed the opponent to execute an easy counter attack, three on one, and score the second goal which proved to be the game winner."
Toshack also criticized the effort as he could not recognize some of the players with the mistakes they were making during the game. Toshack stated it felt like 5-6 players going up against 11 hungry and determined Luxembourg players.
The Macedonian manager went on to add, "In the 1st half, we played well and had a lead. At the beginning of the 2nd half, I replaced Demiri, Todorovski, and Grncarov and gave the other players a chance (everyone played except Dimitrovski) but the changes did not go well. We started four attacking minded players but the finishing was not good enough. We had two 100% chances near the end through Pandev and Despotovski but they could not convert those big opportunities."
In concluding, Toshack said, "I am particularly disappointed with the irresponsibility and undiscipline near the end of the match when several of the players acted childish, and from our ball, our corner, to allow the opponent to execute a quick counterattack to punish us in the last seconds of the match."
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Luxembourg
Luxembourg beats football giants Macedonia 2-1. World cup, here we come!
https://www.facebook.com/theluxembourgfanpage/posts/10150637845018901
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Pance Kumbev: Half of Mak Players Can't Speak Macedonian
Friday, 02 March 2012
MINA Breaking News
Panche Kjumbev, is a former national team player who currently earns his money at FC Rabotnicki. Rabotnicki fans know him well for scoring crucial goals for the red and white team during UEFA competitions.
In a candid note on his Facebook page entitled "Bolen mi lezi mak fudbal" an homage to an old Macedonian song, Kumbev sent an arrow through the hearts of everyone involved in Macedonian football. The no nonsense player expressed his views in the same manner he scores his goals: quick... catching everyone off guard.
Kumbev discussed the recent loss to Luxembourg...
"It doesn't matter if you understand me or not, means nothing to me if you get upset, I will give you my opinion on the state of Mak football anyways" says Kumbev.
"Yes we lost 2-1 to Luxembourg. This is why sport is interesting, anyone can beat anyone else nowdays. Sure this pains me, hurts a lot. But are we better than Andorra, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, San Marino? We are only better than them in two things: Our kids are a lot more talented, and our sports genes, genes in the Balkans in general are better than theirs. In everything else they are 100 years ahead" says Kumbev.
"Why our media and 90% of us think that the above teams are amateurs and we are not? Do you think that their leagues are more amateurish than ours? Let me clear up some things from the beginning.
Our first football league has 14 "professional" teams. Do you know how many of them are really professional who meet the basic conditions for competition? Maybe 2-3, 3-4 tops!
1. Working conditions (auxiliary facilities, equipment, medical staff, locker rooms, expert teams)
As mentioned only 3-4 teams have what I'd call professional conditions. I won't say names of teams, so people don't get upset. Do you know that our players wear equipment that's 10-15 years old? Only 3-4 teams have an auxiliary field, others don't know the meaning of the word "gym". Majority of clubs have no doctors, masseurs, no one can give you a pill if you have a headache. Our players do not know the meaning of vitamins, minerals or sports nutrition. By eating ajvar you do not get the proper sports nutrition. Do you know that in Tetovo the dressing room has no water, no electricity, no toilet? Two years in a row, the champion came from Tetovo.
Do you know that in Kicevo instead of hangers they have nails in the wall, and that instead of a toilet there is a hole in the middle of bathroom? The guest locker room in Kratovo, Prilep and Stip is around 3 sq meters so not everyone fits in. Do you know our youth trains in parks, some are barefoot! Of course, there are wealthy clubs who are certainly an exception and provide great conditions. Kudos to the very few who can provide that!
And what about the amateurish countries our media speaks of? The San Marinos, the Luxembourgs..? Each of them has a sports complex with extra fields, fields with artificial turf, saunas, multiple gyms with new equipment. Who is an amateur here?? Us or them?
2: Professionalism?
Do people realize thatt 70% of Macedonian football players are amateurs? Do you know that 70% percent of them do not pay any contributions, health insurance or pension? Do you know that if God forbid somebody gets hurt or player is expelled from the club, who will cover their operation, treatment, rehabilitation? The automatic salary for our league players is 150 to 200 euros? Again, the wealthier clubs are always an exception, but this is the reality for the majority of the clubs.
3: The quality of the league
Honestly and without false modesty wre are certainly among the last 3-4 leagues in europe. Not to be misunderstood, I speak for the quality of the league, not the players. In Macedonia it is not surprising at all, particularly in Tetovo for someone to enter your dressing room with a gun and tell you that you have to lose the match today. This is the truth, unfortunately. Referees are frequnetly attacked, both during the match and during half time. It is normal for a referee to come up to players and say "I am sorry, but you are going to have to lose the match today". I can give you hundreds of such examples in regards to our league.
4: National Team
For all of us, the national team is something holy. Most of us feel honor and pride to play for the national team.
The Macedonian national team is a place where managerial deals are made, a place where players are brought when they need to be sold to someone. We still have a rule called "He Must Play" regardless how bad someone is.
When we are playing foreign teams, it's another story. Our plane is filled with 20 players, 10 members of the professional headquarters (FFM) and 70 members of the so called "Lamb Brigade". These are people who have never seen or been in a contact with football in their life, but due to their freindship/ties with the federation get to travel with us.
Do you know that half of players do not know our anthem, half of the team doesn't speak Macedonian! People in the FFM are brave enough to say that we don't have other players! What?
Let's ask openly, where is the best goal scorer in our league Filip Ivanovski? Where is Vlatko Grozdanovski, Zlatko Tanevski, Blagojce Todorovski, Krste Velkoski, Mile Krstev, Dimitar Lazarevski Bazhe Ilijoski, Boban Grncarov, Alexander Bajevski, Zoran Baldovaliev, Stojan Ignjatov... lets not list them all because there are too many. Are the aforementioned not deserving of a call to the national team?
Of course they deserve, howver they are not on the 'list' of certain people at the FFM. All of the players I mentioned are in top form, are standard in their clubs, something which is not the case for half of the current squad.
5: Coach
Kudos to the new coach. But what we do need is someone born and bred in Macedonia. Someone who has authority and will not succumb to pressures from the types of "this one must play or not play". Where are our great coaches: Gjore Jovanovski, Cede Janevski Milko Gjurovski, Djoko Hadzhievski, Dzidzi Ilievski, Vlatko Kostov, Ilco Georgievski, Dragan Kanatlarovski, Zoran Smilevski etc.?
6: Leadership
I can say only one thing here: Where are our legends Darko Pancev, Ilija Najdoski, Sasha Chirich, Georgi Hristov, Tony Miceski, Mitko Stojkoski brothers Gjurovski, Goce Sedloski, Artim Shaqiri? Where are they? Away from Macedonian football, unfortunately.
I have more opinions and thoughts going through my head right now, but my point is this. We are the amateurs here, we are amateurs from the highest rank. So please do net get upset when Armenia shows up and scores 4-5 goals on us, or Luxembourg comes back from 1 down and beats us 2-1.
I don't have excuses here, but the players are the least of our problems for the perpetual sinking of Macedonian football.
That's it,
Pance Kumbev
Friday, 02 March 2012
MINA Breaking News
Panche Kjumbev, is a former national team player who currently earns his money at FC Rabotnicki. Rabotnicki fans know him well for scoring crucial goals for the red and white team during UEFA competitions.
In a candid note on his Facebook page entitled "Bolen mi lezi mak fudbal" an homage to an old Macedonian song, Kumbev sent an arrow through the hearts of everyone involved in Macedonian football. The no nonsense player expressed his views in the same manner he scores his goals: quick... catching everyone off guard.
Kumbev discussed the recent loss to Luxembourg...
"It doesn't matter if you understand me or not, means nothing to me if you get upset, I will give you my opinion on the state of Mak football anyways" says Kumbev.
"Yes we lost 2-1 to Luxembourg. This is why sport is interesting, anyone can beat anyone else nowdays. Sure this pains me, hurts a lot. But are we better than Andorra, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, San Marino? We are only better than them in two things: Our kids are a lot more talented, and our sports genes, genes in the Balkans in general are better than theirs. In everything else they are 100 years ahead" says Kumbev.
"Why our media and 90% of us think that the above teams are amateurs and we are not? Do you think that their leagues are more amateurish than ours? Let me clear up some things from the beginning.
Our first football league has 14 "professional" teams. Do you know how many of them are really professional who meet the basic conditions for competition? Maybe 2-3, 3-4 tops!
1. Working conditions (auxiliary facilities, equipment, medical staff, locker rooms, expert teams)
As mentioned only 3-4 teams have what I'd call professional conditions. I won't say names of teams, so people don't get upset. Do you know that our players wear equipment that's 10-15 years old? Only 3-4 teams have an auxiliary field, others don't know the meaning of the word "gym". Majority of clubs have no doctors, masseurs, no one can give you a pill if you have a headache. Our players do not know the meaning of vitamins, minerals or sports nutrition. By eating ajvar you do not get the proper sports nutrition. Do you know that in Tetovo the dressing room has no water, no electricity, no toilet? Two years in a row, the champion came from Tetovo.
Do you know that in Kicevo instead of hangers they have nails in the wall, and that instead of a toilet there is a hole in the middle of bathroom? The guest locker room in Kratovo, Prilep and Stip is around 3 sq meters so not everyone fits in. Do you know our youth trains in parks, some are barefoot! Of course, there are wealthy clubs who are certainly an exception and provide great conditions. Kudos to the very few who can provide that!
And what about the amateurish countries our media speaks of? The San Marinos, the Luxembourgs..? Each of them has a sports complex with extra fields, fields with artificial turf, saunas, multiple gyms with new equipment. Who is an amateur here?? Us or them?
2: Professionalism?
Do people realize thatt 70% of Macedonian football players are amateurs? Do you know that 70% percent of them do not pay any contributions, health insurance or pension? Do you know that if God forbid somebody gets hurt or player is expelled from the club, who will cover their operation, treatment, rehabilitation? The automatic salary for our league players is 150 to 200 euros? Again, the wealthier clubs are always an exception, but this is the reality for the majority of the clubs.
3: The quality of the league
Honestly and without false modesty wre are certainly among the last 3-4 leagues in europe. Not to be misunderstood, I speak for the quality of the league, not the players. In Macedonia it is not surprising at all, particularly in Tetovo for someone to enter your dressing room with a gun and tell you that you have to lose the match today. This is the truth, unfortunately. Referees are frequnetly attacked, both during the match and during half time. It is normal for a referee to come up to players and say "I am sorry, but you are going to have to lose the match today". I can give you hundreds of such examples in regards to our league.
4: National Team
For all of us, the national team is something holy. Most of us feel honor and pride to play for the national team.
The Macedonian national team is a place where managerial deals are made, a place where players are brought when they need to be sold to someone. We still have a rule called "He Must Play" regardless how bad someone is.
When we are playing foreign teams, it's another story. Our plane is filled with 20 players, 10 members of the professional headquarters (FFM) and 70 members of the so called "Lamb Brigade". These are people who have never seen or been in a contact with football in their life, but due to their freindship/ties with the federation get to travel with us.
Do you know that half of players do not know our anthem, half of the team doesn't speak Macedonian! People in the FFM are brave enough to say that we don't have other players! What?
Let's ask openly, where is the best goal scorer in our league Filip Ivanovski? Where is Vlatko Grozdanovski, Zlatko Tanevski, Blagojce Todorovski, Krste Velkoski, Mile Krstev, Dimitar Lazarevski Bazhe Ilijoski, Boban Grncarov, Alexander Bajevski, Zoran Baldovaliev, Stojan Ignjatov... lets not list them all because there are too many. Are the aforementioned not deserving of a call to the national team?
Of course they deserve, howver they are not on the 'list' of certain people at the FFM. All of the players I mentioned are in top form, are standard in their clubs, something which is not the case for half of the current squad.
5: Coach
Kudos to the new coach. But what we do need is someone born and bred in Macedonia. Someone who has authority and will not succumb to pressures from the types of "this one must play or not play". Where are our great coaches: Gjore Jovanovski, Cede Janevski Milko Gjurovski, Djoko Hadzhievski, Dzidzi Ilievski, Vlatko Kostov, Ilco Georgievski, Dragan Kanatlarovski, Zoran Smilevski etc.?
6: Leadership
I can say only one thing here: Where are our legends Darko Pancev, Ilija Najdoski, Sasha Chirich, Georgi Hristov, Tony Miceski, Mitko Stojkoski brothers Gjurovski, Goce Sedloski, Artim Shaqiri? Where are they? Away from Macedonian football, unfortunately.
I have more opinions and thoughts going through my head right now, but my point is this. We are the amateurs here, we are amateurs from the highest rank. So please do net get upset when Armenia shows up and scores 4-5 goals on us, or Luxembourg comes back from 1 down and beats us 2-1.
I don't have excuses here, but the players are the least of our problems for the perpetual sinking of Macedonian football.
That's it,
Pance Kumbev
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FFM Official Phoned Son, told him to bet on Luxembourg
Monday, 05 March 2012
MINA Breaking News - FFM Official Phoned Son, told him to bet on Luxembourg
An individual with initials I.J., part of the FFM delegation in Luxembourg had phoned his son in Skopje and instructed him to place a bet on Luxembourg, advising him that Macedonia although expected to win, will lose in the end.
Igor Filevski, a sports journalist was contacted via Facebook by an individual who was in Luxembourg as part of the football delegation and spoke to the FFM official who told him the match was fixed. The name of the whistleblower was removed from Facebook and kept secret by Filevski.
The FFM official not just that he knew Macedonia would lose, but he knew that Luxembourg would score two goals in the second half. This explains Luxembourg's second goal when the entire Macedonian team moved across the center line and was reluctant to to go back and defend. The odds for 2 in 1 (Macedonia leads on HT, and loses in the end were 35:1). A 1,000 euro wager would have netted 35,000 euros.
Will this be the begining of the end of the most disastrous and corrupt football federation in Europe, only time will tell.
Charlie
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Во ФФМ им текна дека Ñ�електорите Ñ�и прават бизниÑ� Ñ�о репрезентативците – МКД.мк
Auch ein interessanter Artikel über den mazedonischen Fussball. Hadzi-Ristevski und Armando Duka könnten Blutsverwandt sein.
Auch ein interessanter Artikel über den mazedonischen Fussball. Hadzi-Ristevski und Armando Duka könnten Blutsverwandt sein.
Zoran
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Во ФФМ им текна дека Ñ�електорите Ñ�и прават бизниÑ� Ñ�о репрезентативците – МКД.мк
Auch ein interessanter Artikel über den mazedonischen Fussball. Hadzi-Ristevski und Armando Duka könnten Blutsverwandt sein.
Das Problem haben wir allgemein in MK "Vetternwirtschaft", nun gut ist ja allgemein aufm Balkan so, aber bei 2 Mio. Einwohner ist das schon ein extremes Netz...
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06.03.2012 / EILMELDUNG *** War das Fussballspiel Luxemburg-Mazedonien manipuliert?
2-1-Sieg der Luxemburger getürkt? Schwere Anklagen gegen mazedonisches Team!
EILMELDUNG *** War das Fussballspiel Luxemburg-Mazedonien manipuliert? - 2-1-Sieg der Luxemburger getürkt? Schwere Anklagen gegen mazedonisches Team! - News - Luxprivat
War das Fussballspiel Luxemburg-Mazedonien, das bekanntlich die Auswahl aus Luxemburg mit 2-1 etwas überraschend gewann, manipuliert? Waren Wettpaten bei diesem Freundschaftsspiel am Werk? Das jeden Fall behauptet macedoniaonline.eu und bringt auch Beweise. U.a. Mails und Namen. Immerhin stand die Quote für die Wetten 35-1 (35 000 Euro für 1 000 Euro Einsatz) bei einem Luxemburger Sieg. Auch die zwei Luxemburger Tore sollen programmiert und sogar für die zweite Hälfte vorgesehen worden sein, allerdings ohne Mithilfe der FLF-Boys. Aber mit Erlaubnis des einne oder anderen mazedonischen Spielers.
2-1-Sieg der Luxemburger getürkt? Schwere Anklagen gegen mazedonisches Team!
EILMELDUNG *** War das Fussballspiel Luxemburg-Mazedonien manipuliert? - 2-1-Sieg der Luxemburger getürkt? Schwere Anklagen gegen mazedonisches Team! - News - Luxprivat
War das Fussballspiel Luxemburg-Mazedonien, das bekanntlich die Auswahl aus Luxemburg mit 2-1 etwas überraschend gewann, manipuliert? Waren Wettpaten bei diesem Freundschaftsspiel am Werk? Das jeden Fall behauptet macedoniaonline.eu und bringt auch Beweise. U.a. Mails und Namen. Immerhin stand die Quote für die Wetten 35-1 (35 000 Euro für 1 000 Euro Einsatz) bei einem Luxemburger Sieg. Auch die zwei Luxemburger Tore sollen programmiert und sogar für die zweite Hälfte vorgesehen worden sein, allerdings ohne Mithilfe der FLF-Boys. Aber mit Erlaubnis des einne oder anderen mazedonischen Spielers.