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Pelasger

Grieche gab es nie als Volk , gab es nur die (alt) griechische Sprache, benutzt war in Kirche und als Amtssprache in der Zeit von Rom und Byzanten :

Diese Inschriften sind Albanisch geschrieben in Ionische Alphabet:



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Es gab aber Volksgruppen im antiken Griechenland, die Hellenen waren und sich selbst als Griechen bezeichneten, wie z.B. die Spartaner, Athener etc.
Es gab ein griechisches Volksbewusstsein, das ist unbestreitbar.
 
Kurze frage :)
hier eine teil :

warum tragen sie nicht alte kultur und alte Elemente von alte zeiten ?


dumme antwort:

wieso tragen die römer ( italiener)keine toga und kein loorbeerkranz mehr??

wieso laufen die deutsche nicht mehr halbnackt durch den teutoburgerwald???

wieso tragen die japaner heute anzüge und keine samurai rüstung mehr

merkste wie dämlich deine fragestellung ist


du gehörst zu den größenwahnsinnigsten usern weit und breit

deine erste karte selbst zeigt das die pelasger im heutigen griechenland gelebt haben und nicht in "mighty ülüria"
 
Es gab aber Volksgruppen im antiken Griechenland, die Hellenen waren und sich selbst als Griechen bezeichneten, wie z.B. die Spartaner, Athener etc.
Es gab ein griechisches Volksbewusstsein, das ist unbestreitbar.
Hellenen waren nur eine kleine teil des Pelasager , nicht mehr :)
Original von Herodoth ,

Herodotus Book 2: Euterpe 52
Now the Pelasgians formerly were wont to make all their sacrifices calling upon the gods in prayer, as I know from that which I heard at Dodona, but they gave no title or name to any of them, for they had not yet heard any, but they called them gods from some such notion as this, that they had set in order all things and so had the distribution of everything. Afterwards, when much time had elapsed, they learnt from Egypt the names of the gods, all except Dionysos, for his name they learnt long afterwards; and after a time the Pelasgians consulted the Oracle at Dodona about the names, for this prophetic seat is accounted to be the most ancient of the Oracles which are among the Hellenes, and at that time it was the only one. So when the Pelasgians asked the Oracle at Dodona whether they should adopt the names which had come from the Barbarians, the Oracle in reply bade them make use of the names. From this time they sacrificed using the names of the gods, and from the Pelasgians the Hellenes afterwards received them
:ἔθυον δὲ πάντα πρότερον οἱ Πελασγοὶ θεοῖσι ἐπευχόμενοι, ὡς ἐγὼ ἐν Δωδώνῃ οἶδα ἀκούσας, ἐπωνυμίην δὲ οὐδ᾽ οὔνομα ἐποιεῦντο οὐδενὶ αὐτῶν· οὐ γὰρ ἀκηκόεσάν κω. θεοὺς δὲ προσωνόμασαν σφέας ἀπὸ τοῦ τοιούτου, ὅτι κόσμῳ θέντες τὰ πάντα πρήγματα καὶ πάσας νομὰς εἶχον. [2] ἔπειτα δὲ χρόνου πολλοῦ διεξελθόντος ἐπύθοντο ἐκ τῆς Αἰγύπτου ἀπικόμενα τὰ οὐνόματα τῶν θεῶν τῶν ἄλλων, Διονύσου δὲ ὕστερον πολλῷ ἐπύθοντο. καὶ μετὰ χρόνον ἐχρηστηριάζοντο περὶ τῶν οὐνομάτων ἐν Δωδώνῃ· τὸ γὰρ δὴ μαντήιον τοῦτο νενόμισται ἀρχαιότατον τῶν ἐν Ἕλλησι χρηστηρίων εἶναι, καὶ ἦν τὸν χρόνον τοῦτον μοῦνον. [3] ἐπεὶ ὦν ἐχρηστηριάζοντο ἐν τῇ Δωδώνῃ οἱ Πελασγοὶ εἰ ἀνέλωνται τὰ οὐνόματα τὰ ἀπὸ τῶν βαρβάρων ἥκοντα, ἀνεῖλε τὸ μαντήιον χρᾶσθαι. ἀπὸ μὲν δὴ τούτου τοῦ χρόνου ἔθυον τοῖσι οὐνόμασι τῶν θεῶν χρεώμενοι· παρὰ δὲ Πελασγῶν Ἕλληνες ἐξεδέξαντο ὕστερον.
 
Hellenen waren nur eine kleine teil des Pelasager , nicht mehr :)
Original von Herodoth ,

Herodotus Book 2: Euterpe 52
Now the Pelasgians formerly were wont to make all their sacrifices calling upon the gods in prayer, as I know from that which I heard at Dodona, but they gave no title or name to any of them, for they had not yet heard any, but they called them gods from some such notion as this, that they had set in order all things and so had the distribution of everything. Afterwards, when much time had elapsed, they learnt from Egypt the names of the gods, all except Dionysos, for his name they learnt long afterwards; and after a time the Pelasgians consulted the Oracle at Dodona about the names, for this prophetic seat is accounted to be the most ancient of the Oracles which are among the Hellenes, and at that time it was the only one. So when the Pelasgians asked the Oracle at Dodona whether they should adopt the names which had come from the Barbarians, the Oracle in reply bade them make use of the names. From this time they sacrificed using the names of the gods, and from the Pelasgians the Hellenes afterwards received them


das die griechen keine 100 % pelasger sind weiß jeder

die antiken griechen setzten sich durhc viele völker zusammen seis durch die pelasger,dorier,ionier,mykener minoer und was weiß ich was


was hat das all dem aber mit euch albaner zu tun das versteh ich nicht??

nur weil ihr die eierschale noch trägt heisst das wir sind keine griechen und ihr schon???lass dich mal einweißen du bekloppter spinner
 
Hellenen waren nur eine kleine teil des Pelasager , nicht mehr :)
Original von Herodoth ,

Herodotus Book 2: Euterpe 52
Now the Pelasgians formerly were wont to make all their sacrifices calling upon the gods in prayer, as I know from that which I heard at Dodona, but they gave no title or name to any of them, for they had not yet heard any, but they called them gods from some such notion as this, that they had set in order all things and so had the distribution of everything. Afterwards, when much time had elapsed, they learnt from Egypt the names of the gods, all except Dionysos, for his name they learnt long afterwards; and after a time the Pelasgians consulted the Oracle at Dodona about the names, for this prophetic seat is accounted to be the most ancient of the Oracles which are among the Hellenes, and at that time it was the only one. So when the Pelasgians asked the Oracle at Dodona whether they should adopt the names which had come from the Barbarians, the Oracle in reply bade them make use of the names. From this time they sacrificed using the names of the gods, and from the Pelasgians the Hellenes afterwards received them
Ist das Herodotus der Albaner?
 



hab ein bissl nachgeforscht und hab was über euren größenwahn gefunden

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_nationalism


Bits from these ideologies were partially adopted during the People's Republic of Albania (1945–1991), which was more focused on Illyrian-Albanian continuity issue[8] and appropriating Ancient Greek history as Albanian.[8] However the core values of Albanian National Awakening remain rooted even today. And the ideology developed during Hoxha's regime is still partly present (though "there seems to be willingness for change"[9]) in modern Albanian society and institutions, in Albania and Kosovo[8][10].
Albanians consider themselves to be descendants of the Illyrians, a theory not proven by scientist today. The 19th century idea that Albanians are descendants of[11] Pelasgians[12] and that Etruscans,[13] had an Illyrian origin are still common among certain Albanian circles. These ideas seem to have formed as a tendency for creation of a myth that would allow movements for independence and self-determination.




Protochronism

Among controversial claims Aristotle,[18] Pyrrhus of Epirus,[19] Alexander the Great,[20] and Phillip II of Macedon (along with all the ancient Macedonians) were Pelasgian-Illyrian-Albanian[21] and that ancient Greek culture (and thus the result of the Hellenistic civilisation) had been spread by Albanians[22]. Macedonians are considered forefathers (among several others) of the Albanians. Ancient Greek gods are seen as "Albanian" as well[8].
Through the Pelasgian claim, most if not all European cultures are claimed to be derivatory, even those of the Romans and Celts.[23]
Robert D'Angély is one of the authors that tries to re-actualize XIX century claims that Albanians descend from the most ancient peoples, the Pelasgians, and that the European "white race" descends from these people. According to Angély, Greek people or Greek nation does not exist (he writes that Greeks mixed with Semites) and that the ancient Greeks were Pelasgian Albanians.[24]
Edwin Everett Jacques an American XIX century missionary [25] in Albania in his book "The Albanians: An Ethnic History from Prehistoric Times to the Present" supported and recreated these notions by considering all the Ancient Greeks Albanians.[26]
Ismail Kadare, an Albanian novelist, winner of the Man Booker International Prize in 2005 and of the Prince of Asturias Award in 2009 claims that Albanians are more Greek than the Greeks themselves,[27] and attempts to construct a Greek-Illyrian continuity[27].








was hat nur der enver mit euch gemacht
 
dumme antwort:

wieso tragen die römer ( italiener)keine toga und kein loorbeerkranz mehr??

wieso laufen die deutsche nicht mehr halbnackt durch den teutoburgerwald???

wieso tragen die japaner heute anzüge und keine samurai rüstung mehr

merkste wie dämlich deine fragestellung ist


du gehörst zu den größenwahnsinnigsten usern weit und breit

deine erste karte selbst zeigt das die pelasger im heutigen griechenland gelebt haben und nicht in "mighty ülüria"

"wieso laufen die deutsche nicht mehr halbnackt durch den teutoburgerwald???"

1. Damals gab es noch keine Deutsche und kein Nationalbewusstsein.
2. Lief kein Germane halbnackt durch die Gegend.
3. Daran erkennt man das du keine Ahnung von der germanische Kultur hast.
 
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