Siegel des Kastriotis

[chaostheorie]

Ein Video eines Griechen:

YouTube - GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS the Greek Hero

Beschreibung:

GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS FOUGHT AGAINST TURKS AND ALBANIANS
HE HIMSELF DECLARES HIS GREEKNESS DESCENDING FROM GREEK KING PYRROS
ALL HIS FAMILY TREE CONSISTS OF GREEKS
ONLY ONE PERSON IN HIS FAMILY WAS A NON GREEK
AND WHAT IRONIC!, EVEN THAT PERSON WASNT ALBANIAN!, he is not even 50% Albo
HIS MOTHER WAS SERBIAN. HE ALWAYS wrote in Greek & SIGNED HIS LETTERS AS Γεωργιος Καστριωτης. He adopted the double headed eagle from Greek Byzantium Flag, as his martial flag
All scholars at that time describe him as a brave Greek. He married Greek Androniki Komnini and his son fought in Peloponnisos to free Greece against TURKALBOS
this is a video of ChaossHellas

Sowas darf man doch nicht Ernst nehmen , Es gab keinen griechischen Helden in dieser Zeit.

 

[Amphion]

Ein Video eines Griechen:

YouTube - GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS the Greek Hero

Beschreibung:

GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS FOUGHT AGAINST TURKS AND ALBANIANS
HE HIMSELF DECLARES HIS GREEKNESS DESCENDING FROM GREEK KING PYRROS
ALL HIS FAMILY TREE CONSISTS OF GREEKS
ONLY ONE PERSON IN HIS FAMILY WAS A NON GREEK
AND WHAT IRONIC!, EVEN THAT PERSON WASNT ALBANIAN!, he is not even 50% Albo
HIS MOTHER WAS SERBIAN. HE ALWAYS wrote in Greek & SIGNED HIS LETTERS AS Γεωργιος Καστριωτης. He adopted the double headed eagle from Greek Byzantium Flag, as his martial flag
All scholars at that time describe him as a brave Greek. He married Greek Androniki Komnini and his son fought in Peloponnisos to free Greece against TURKALBOS
this is a video of ChaossHellas

Ein durchaus informationsreiches Video über Georgios Kastriots.
Ich möchte kurz erwähnen daß der darin enthaltene Name Plython Gemistos eine Besonderheit darstellt. Er hat sein Leben langfür die Aufklärung gewirkt, sehr zum Ärger der orthodoxen Kirche. Nach seinem Tod wurden alle seine Bücher öffentlich verbrannt.

Plython Gemistos deshalb, weil er "voll des Platon" war, also er befasste sich ausschließlich mit originär griechischer Religion, der vorchristlichen, der Philosophie, und hielt nichts von der Kirche.

YouTube - GEORGIOS KASTRIOTIS the Greek Hero

 

[AulOn]

Und hier die Antwort drauf :

YouTube - Re: Georgios Kastriotis "The Manipulators"(First Part)

 

[dzouzef]

YouTube - Georgios Kastriotis 2, Greek Medieval Hero

 

[AulOn]

YouTube - Gjergj Kastrioti Scanderbeg: Warrior-King of Albania Preview



YouTube - Skanderbeg Warrior King of Albania




YouTube - Scanderbeg

 

[chaostheorie]

Ah ich habe alles verstanden, George ein Hellene. Darum haben diese ganzen Arbëresh das Land verlassen , wo seine Liga vernichtend von den Osmanen geschlagen wurde.

alles klar

 

[AulOn]

I Castriota Scanderbeg principi d'Albania



The Castriota Family

The Kastrioti or Castriota family, of Albanian origin, begins with certainty with John Castriota, lord of Mat and Vumenestia, who died in 1443. He resisted Turkish attempts at conquering the Albanian region. At one point, he had to give his four sons as hostage to the Turks. One of them, George Castriota (1403-6, was raised at the Ottoman court and given the name Iskander-Bey (Skanderbeg). He became Christian again, and led Albanian resistance to the Turks to become prince of Albania. He was allied with Venice, which inducted him in its nobility in 1463, but also with the king of Naples, who gave him the lordships of Monte S. Angelo and S. Giovanni Rotundo in the Gargano region of Naples in 1463.
He left a son by Andronica Arianiti Comnena, Giovanni Castriota (ca. 1450-1514), who ceded his rights in Albania to Venice in 1474 and retired in the kingdom of Naples. He exchanged his possessions for the marquisate of Soleto and the county of San Pietro in Galatina (both near Lecce) in 1485. In 1497, he was elevated to the rank of duca di San Pietro. He married Irene Palaiologa, daughter of Lazare despot of Serbia, and left 3 or 4 sons: Costantino, bishop of Isernia (died 1500), Ferrante who succeeded as duke, Giorgio (died 1540, leaving one son without issue), and perhaps Federico. It is said that this line died with Irene, sole surviving child of Ferrante, married in 1539 to Pietrantonio Sanseverino, prince of Bisignano. Among the illegitimate children of Ferrante, two had issue: Achille, born of Dianora, a Greek slave from Corone freed by the duke, whose descendants now live in Naples; and Pardo, son of Porzia de Urrisio, made a patrician of the city of Lecce, whose descendants live in Lecce and Ruffano. A member of that branch was Isabella Castriota Scanderbeg (1704-49), a poet.
The family still exists. The current (or at least recent) head of the family of Castriota-Scanderbeg lives at "Napoli: via G. Cotronei 2", while his uncle lives at "Napoli: villa Scanderbeg, via Napoli 119 bis; La Pietra- Bagnoli (Napoli)". They bear the arms d'oro all'aquila bicipite, coronata sulle due teste di nero, col volo abbassato, alla punta d'azz., movente dal lembo superiore dello scudo, rovesciata e caricata di una stella (6) d'oro (which translates into Or an double-headed eagle, wings abaisse, crowned on both heads sable, on a pile azure a mullet or.)
A brother of George Castriota Scanderbeg was Stanisha (Staniscia), who left a son Branilo. Raised as an Ottoman under the name of Hamsa, he became Christian in 1443, count of Mat, governor of Croia in Albania, was made duke of Ferrandina in the kingdom of Naples and died in 1463. By Maria Zardari he had Giovanni, duke of Ferrandino who left a daughter Maria; and Alfonso, marquis of Altripalda in 1512 (died 1544). Some source give him a son Antonio Branai who married his cousin Maria and became duke of Ferrandina. Antonio had no legitimate issue, but a natural son Alessandro d'Altripalda whose descendants formed a prominent family of the Napolitan aristocracy ad were were given the name Castriota in 1803. Others say that this is a confusion, and that this Castriota family descends from Bernardo Granai, a lieutenant of Scanderbeg.
Recently (according to the Electronic Telegraph of May 8, 1997) Giorgio Castriota Scnaderbeg, a bank employee near Naples, has made a claim to the Albanian throne. Isabella Stasi Castriota Scanderbeg, an Italian TV documentary writer and producer who lives in Rome and Cadaqués;, may belong to the Catriota d'Altripada family.
Sources:

• Enciclopedia Italiana.
• Enciclopedia Storico-Nobiliare Italiana.
• Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani.
• Charles Hopf: Chroniques Gréco-Romaines. Berlin, 1873.
• Foscarini, Amilcare: l' Armerista delle famiglie nobili e notabili in terra d'Otranto, 1927.

 

[LouWeed]

bitte keine Geschichtsfälschung betreiben.
Es ist natürlich verständlich, daß bestimmte Inhalte nicht jedem gefallen, zumal selber vión kleinan darauf fixiert war.

du solltest dich besser informieren, dieser siegel ist genau so eine geschichtsfaelschung.....

sogar aus deiner quelle, wikipedia

There are numerous grammatical errors in the Greek text, indicating that it is indeed false. In its center it shows the double-headed eagle symbol of the Byzantine emperor (and found also on the flag of modern Albania). The seal has been under dispute, however, since Skanderbeg was never a king, but rather a feudal inheritor; not to mention the fact that the Byzantine Empire still had successor in the Empire of Trebizond and the surviving family of the last Emperor. At the same time, Scanderbeg was neither the 'King' of the Serbs nor Bulgars, since each had their own rulers at the time. Most likely, it was not contemporary with Scanderbeg, but, rather, was commissioned by the family some time in the 16th century. It has never been used.

 

[phαηtom]

louweed 1:0 balkanmensch

 

[Amphion]

louweed 1:0 balkanmensch

artemi,
du kannst es ja kaum abwarten, um die Wertefahne hochzuhalten.
dann setze dein Werk fort, auch in deiner Heimat hat sich ja eine Entwicklung angebahnt, nur war diese nicht von der Aussenwelt abgeschottet, es gab keine Berliner Mauer um dein Land, wie in Falle eines anderen, wo das Volk auf Gedeih und Verderb der Machtwillkür einer Person ausgesetzt war.

Dieser Eine war sehr darauf hinaus, einen Nationalhelden zu schaffen, es scheint ihm gelungen:


Hinsichtlich des Verhaltens scheint es weiter verwunderlich, wie es sein kann, daß man jedes Wirken dieser Person ex Post verdammt, aber hier plötzlich eine glorreiche Ausnahme aus dem Hut zieht.

Und dann muß man sich das mal reinziehen, weil die Jüngeren sehr schnell von "das-ist-ja-logisch" reden, was angeboten wird:

Da kämpft eine Seite über einen sehr langen Zeitraum auf Leben und Tod gegen eine andere Seite, in einer Zeit des dauernden Krieges oder Kriegszustandes, und plötzlich soll die Seite der Bekämpften und deren Ahnen getöteten diesen einen Mann als ihren Retter ansehen, ihn zum alleinigen Nationalhelden ausgerufen haben, einen Menschen, der nie daran gedacht haben könnte, daß zu machen, was seine angeblichen Nachfahren taten.

Also, aus der jüngsten Vergangenheit könnten monströse Ereignisse als Beispiel der Unmöglichkeit dienen, sie bekämen sogar den Ruch des Geschmacklosen.

Also Artemi, berücksichtige mit deinen Fahnen auch solches:

LouWeed: Philipp war ein Vorfahre der FYROM-Bürger
Balkanmensch: das müssen wir prüfen, ggf. könnte das falsch sein, die Welt kennt ihn als Griechen

Fahnenschwenker Artemi ist am Zug:

Louweed : Balkanmensch = 1:0