These are the Macedonians

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Istiot Govor go drzese i Crvenko pred nekoja godina ubavo zvuci za glasacite no kakva garancija ni dava toa na krajot sepak mora da prifatime nesto ako ne pritisnat

 

[Apache]

The former Yugoslav Republic of "Macedonia"

 

[Zoran]

The former Yugoslav Republic of "Macedonia"

Halt die Fresse.

Pozdrav

 

[Zoran]

Sie haben keine Berechtigung Anhänge anzusehen. Anhänge sind ausgeblendet.

http://zase.mk/foto-emilija-e-najunikatnata-makedonska-nevesta/

 

[Zoran]

[h=1]Рене и Сергеј „чуда од деца“ во школата на Вардар[/h]3.10.2013 - 09:43:30

Покрај интензивно работење на остварување на што подобри резултати младинската школа на Вардар работи и на изнаоѓање на талентите што во иднина би претставувале гордост на „црвено-црните“.

Најнов пример за тоа се двете „чуда од деца“, четиригодишниот Рене и малиот Сергеј, кој има само две и пол години. Станува збор за дечиња што се забележани од страна на тренерите на младинска школа на Вардар, па по контактот со нивните родители договорено и тие да тренираат со „црвено-црните“ фудбалски надежи.

Бидејќи станува збор за навистина млади, но суперталентирани деца, тие тренираат со најмладата група во нашата школа, во која се работи со деца на возраст од шест до седум години.

Извор: fkvardar.mk

 

[Zoran]

[h=1]На денешен ден е убиен кралот Александрар Караѓорѓевиќ[/h]

 

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На денешен ден е убиен кралот Александрар Караѓорѓевиќ

Machen wir eine Party um das zu feiern

 

[Zoran]

Стружани
Граѓаните масовно го поставуваат македонското знаме во Струга, општината вети дека ќе го почитува законот (ФОТО) | МКД.мк

 

[Heraclius]

So, jetzt spamen wir auch mal Zoranskis Threads ein bissl voll, geht ja hier schließlich um "Makedonen". ;-)



In meinen Wikipedia Links wurde folgendes postuliert. Das Wesentliche ist rot hervorgehoben:

Macedonia possessed a distinct material culture by the Early Iron Age.[51] Typically "Balkan" burial, ornamental, and ceramic forms were used for most of the Iron Age.[52] These features suggest broad cultural affinities and organizational structures analogous with Thracian, Epirote, and Illyrian regions.[53][54] This, however, did not necessarily symbolize a sharing of common identity or political allegiance.[55] Toward the latter 6th century BC, Macedonia became more open to Greek influences from the south, although a small but detectable amount of interaction with the south had been present since late Mycenaean times.[56] By the 5th century BC, Macedonia was a part of the "Greek cultural milieu", possessing many cultural traits typical of the southern Greek city-states.[57] Classical Greek objects and customs were appropriated selectively and utilized in peculiarly "Macedonian" ways.[58]

Betreffend der makedonischen Sprache weiß man heute folgendes:

Classification attempts are based on a vocabulary of 150-200 words and 200 personal names assembled mainly from the 5th century lexicon of Hesychius of Alexandria, as well as a few fragmentary surviving inscriptions, coins, and the occasional passage in ancient sources.[95] Most of the vocabulary is regular Greek, with tendencies toward Doric Greek and Aeolic Greek;

Makedonische Personennamen sind eindeutig als griechisch identifizierbar:

Macedonian onomastics paint a similar picture, most personal names being recognizably Greek (e.g. Alexandros, Philippos, Dionysios, Apollonios, Demetrios), with some dating back to Homeric (e.g. Ptolemaeos) or even Mycenean times, though here too there can be found the occasional non-Greek name (e.g. "Bithys")

Ebenso griechisch waren die Toponyme, die Hydronyme, die Monatsnamen und die Namen der Götter.

Macedonian toponyms and hydronyms are similarly overwhelmingly Greek in origin (e.g. Aegae, Dion, Pieria, Haliacmon), as are the names of the months of the Macedonian calendar and the names of most of the deities the Macedonians worshiped, and according to Hammond, these are not late borrowings.

Bezüglich der sprachlichen Affinität des Makedonischen:

Macedonian shares close structural and lexical affinity with the "proper" Greek dialects (especially Northwest Greek and Thessalian)

Und nochmals das Wesentliche, zum Mitschreiben:

Most of the vocabulary is regular Greek, with tendencies toward Doric Greek and Aeolic Greek;

Ancient Macedonians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Was die Diskussion um die Aitolier angeht, interessiert die in diesem Kontext keinen Menschen. Außer das ihre Umgangssprache bis zur Zeit des Hellenismus ebenso wenig Attisch war wie in Makedonien. Wenn du über das Griechentum der Aitolier diskutieren willst, eröffne doch einfach einen neuen Thread.


Heraclius

 

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Wie kann man neben den Makedonen nun auch die Aitolier als Nichtgriechen deklarieren???
Achtung bald kommen sie damit dass die Athener und Spartaner auch keine Griechen seien......