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"Alexander, der Slawe"

Лудиот;2124205 schrieb:
Welche Funde denn?

Schonmal das hier in echt gesehen?

golden-larnax-in-phillip-museum.jpg





Hippokrates
 
Лудиот;2124213 schrieb:
Du kannst viel Posten, ich will originale sehen. (bzw. im ganzen sehen bzw. lesen)



John V.A. Fine (1983) ‘The Ancient Greeks: A Critical History’ Harvard University Press, pgs 605-608

The Macedonian language has not survived in any written text, but the names of individuals, places, gods, months, and the like suggest strongly that the language was a Greek dialect. Macedonian institutions, both secular and religious, had marked Hellenic characteristics and legends identify or link the people with the Dorians.


* O.Masson (1996) “The Oxford Classical Dictionary 3rd ed. Macedonia,
Language” pgs 905-906
Masson states:
”Yet in contrast with earlier views which made of it an
Aeolic dialect [O. Hoffmann compared Thessalian] we must by
now think of a link with North west Greek [Locrian, Aetolian,
Phocidian, Epirote]. This view is supported by the recent
discovery at Pella of a curse tablet [4th c BC] which may
well be the first ‘Macedonian’ text attested [provisional
publication by E. Voutyras; cf. the Bulletin Epigraphique
in Rev.Et.Grec.1994no.413]; the text includes an adverb “opoka”
which is not Thessalian.
We must wait for new discoveries, but we may tentatively
conclude that Macedonian is a dialect related to North-West
Greek.”



* Hammond (1992) “The Miracle that was Macedonia” pg. 206.
As members of the Greek race and speakers of the Greek language,
the Macedonians shared in the ability to initiate ideas and
create political forms.”





* F. Munzer, German linguist, “Die Politische Vernichtung des Griechentums”, Leipzig 1925, p. 4

The problem of the nationality of the Macedonians has been studied a great deal. Otto Hoffman with linguistics as his starting point solved it correctly and decisively when he accepted that the Macedonians were Greeks


* J.R. Hamilton, “Alexander the Great”, London, 1973

That the Macedonians were of Greek stock seems certain. The claim
made by the Argead dynasty to be of Argive descent may be no more
than a generally accepted myth, but Macedonian proper names, such as
Ptolemaios or Philippos, are good Greek names, and the names of the
Macedonian months, although differed from those of Athens or Sparta,
were also Greek. The language spoken by the Macedonians, which
Greeks of the classical period found intelligible, appears to have been
a primitive north-west Greek dialect, much influenced by the languages of the neighboring barbarians.”



* J.M. Roberts, “A Short History of the World”, Oxford University Press, New York, 1993

The Macedonians spoke Greek and attended Hellenic festivals; their kings claimed to be descented from Greek families- from Achilles, the great Achaean hero of the Iliad, no less.”


* David Sacks, “A Dictionary of the Ancient Greek World.”, Oxford, 1995

Macedon was inhabited by various peoples of Dorian-Greek, Illyrian, and Thracian descent, who spoke a Greek dialect and worshipped Greek gods…Unification and modernization came gradually, at the hands of kings of Dorian descent.”



* Malcolm Errington, “A History of Macedonia”, California University Press, 1990.

“The Molossians were the strongest and, decisive for Macedonia, most
easterly of the three most important Epeirot tribes, which, like Macedonia
but unlike the Thesprotians and the Chaonians, still retained their
monarchy. They were Greeks, spoke a similar dialect to that of Macedonia,
suffered just as much from the depredations of the Illyrians and were in
principle the natural partners of the Macedonian king who wished to tackle
the Illyrian problem at its roots.”



Hier sind ein paar historiker mit Bucherangabe und seiten !!!!!!!

Wenn du wollen ich post dir mehr ^^
 
Лудиот;2124250 schrieb:
Du meinst das aus dem angeblichen Grab Philips?

Das sich als große griechische Lüge entpuppte???

Not Philip II of Macedon


Sag mal, wird das mit dem Lügen bei euch beigebracht?? Als "greek macedonian" Idiotentest, oder sowas?

Get a Life? Wie wäre es mal mit mehr Persönlichkeit? Dann würdeste hippokrates nicht aufgrund deiner vermeintlichen "Identität (höhöhö)" vollheulen? Ach scheiss drauf, minderwertige Existenz^^
 
Warum trauen sich die Fyromer nicht nach Makedonien? Diese Frage wurmt mich jetzt sehr. Sie hätten dort die Chance antiken makedonische Funde zu sehen - alles ist öffentlich - und trotzdem kommt keiner nach Pella, Dion, Vergina usw.



Hippokrates
 
Hast du die Larnax live gesehen oder nicht?



Hippokrates

Nicht nur das, ich war auch bei den Gräbern.

Ich war sehr enttäuscht, sehr herunter gekommen.
Lokale "Ntopios" haben mir erzählt das seit Ende der 1970er keine Ausgrabungen mehr stattfinden, ebenso fand ich es irgendwie seltsam das das Photographieren untersagt war und vor allem das viele Katakomben nicht zugänglich sind.

Warum werden keine Anstrengungen von dem griechischen Kulturministerium mehr unternommen, Aigai näher zu untersuchen?
 
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