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ja, nur leider ist ein großer teil eurer geschichte auch gleichzeitig albanische geschichte...
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ja, nur leider ist ein großer teil eurer geschichte auch gleichzeitig albanische geschichte...
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oder Arta in der qameria ist auch hundertprozentig albanisch aber die griechen wissen wie man geschischte fälscht.
Averoff
Turkish fleet lol
natürlich waren die makedonen barbarischer als die stadt staaten im süden
überleg doch ma
die hatten die illyrer und die thraker als nachbarn
und das sich nachbarn gegenseitig beinflusst haben zur damaligen zeit ist doch offensichtlich
die griechen im süden dagegen hatten keine barbarischen nachbarn natürlich waren die zivilisierter
alexander hat den hellenismus verbreitet nicht den makedonismus wieso zum teufel sollte also jemand eine völlig fremde kultur verbreiten
alexander : Holy shadows of the dead, I’m not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people, to fight one another. I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad, brothers, if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the same language, the same blood and the same visions
Alexander the Great quote-Holy shadows of the dead, I?m not to blame for your cruel and...
das sagt alles aus
Sazan
Arvanit
Hier mein unwissender freund,ich hoffe du weiss was was der Louvre ist
Ancient and Medieval Macedonian History: Alexander the Great at the Louvre for a unique exhibition
'Heracles to Alexander the Great' exhibition at Oxford's Ashmolean Museum | Phantis
A major exhibition titled "Heracles to Alexander the Great: Treasures from the Royal Capital o Macedon, a Hellenic Kingdom in the Age of Democracy" opens next week at Oxford University's
ABer wwas weiss schon Oxford und die Louvre Leute
die wissen genau so viel wie du und ich.. also nix!
um es wirklich beweisen zu können, bräuchte man eine zeitmaschine, die es ermöglichen würde alexander den großen selbst zu fragen.
hippokrates
γαμάω και
Wenn du es sagst, wird es sicherlich stimmen. Ich halte mich lieber an die gängige Lehrmeinung von Oxford & Co.
Ich habe von Albanern schon die hanebüchesten Etymologien gehört. Die aberwitzigste war die von "Periode"; einer versuchte das Wort mit "peri" und "udhe" oder so Ähnlich zu erklären. :roll:
Hippokrates
hippokrates
γαμάω και
Dass du nichts weisst, heisst noch lange nicht, dass andere nichts wissen. Das ist ein kleiner aber feiner Unterschied. ;-)
Hippokrates
Averoff
Turkish fleet lol
das behaupten wieder nur ihr albaner
hier was antike philisophen über die epiroten gesagt haben
Homer, Iliad 16:127 (Achilles prayer)
XI.
“War was at the same time proclaimed against the Tarentines (who are still a people at the extremity of Italy), because they had offered violence to some Roman ambassadors. These people asked aid against the Romans of Pyrrhus, king of Epirus, who derived his origin from the family of Achilles…
XIII.
“…Thus the ambassador of Pyrrhus returned; and, when Pyrrhus asked him “what kind of a place he had found Rome to be,” Cineas replied, that “he had seen a country of kings, for that all there were such, as Pyrrhus alone was thought to be in Epirus and the rest of Greece.”
Eutropius (Abridgment of Roman History) Historiae Romanae Breviarium
“Arha Ellas apo Oricias kai arhegonos Ellas Epiros“
“Greece starts at Oricus and the most ancient part of Greece is Epirus.”
Claudius Ptolemy, The Geographer
“Peleus is the forefather of the kings of Epiros”
Pausanias, II (Corinth).
Peleus being the son of King Aeacus (the dynasty’s name) and the father of Achilles.
but we know of no Greek before Pyrros who fought against Rome
Pausanias, 1.11
“So Pyrros was the first to cross over against Rome from mainland Greece, and even so he went over only because he was called in by Tarentum”
Pausanias, 1.12
[6] Being apprized of Alcmaeon’s untimely end and courted by Zeus, Callirrhoe requested that the sons she had by Alcmaeon might be full grown in order to avenge their father’s murder. And being suddenly full-grown, the sons went forth to right their father’s wrong. Now Pronous and Agenor, the sons of Phegeus, carrying the necklace and robe to Delphi to dedicate them, turned in at the house of Agapenor at the same time as Amphoterus and Acarnan, the sons of Alcmaeon; and the sons of Alcmaeon killed their father’s murderers, and going to Psophis and entering the palace they slew both Phegeus and his wife. They were pursued as far as Tegea, but saved by the intervention of the Tegeans and some Argives, and the Psophidians took to flight.
[7] Having acquainted their mother with these things, they went to Delphi and dedicated the necklace and robe according to the injunction of Achelous. Then they journeyed to Epirus, collected settlers, and colonized Acarnania..
Apollodorus, 3.76-3.77.
[12] After remaining in Tenedos two days at the advice of Thetis, Neoptolemus set out for the country of the Molossians by land with Helenus, and on the way Phoenix died, and Neoptolemus buried him; and having vanquished the Molossians in battle he reigned as king and begat Molossus on Andromache. And Helenus founded a city in Molossia and inhabited it, and Neoptolemus gave him his mother Deidamia to wife. And when Peleus was expelled from Phthia by the sons of Acastus and died, Neoptolemus succeeded to his father’s kingdom.”
Apollodorus, 6.12
“It was for this reason that Pyrrhus was defeated by the Romans also in a battle to the finish. For it was no mean or untrained army that he had, but the mightiest of those then in existence among the Greeks and one that had fought a great many wars; nor was it a small body of men that was then arrayed under him, but even three times as large as his adversary’s, nor was its general any chance leader, but rather the man whom all admit to have been the greatest of all the generals who flourish at that same period;”
Dionysius of Halicarnnasus, Roman Antiquities, 19.11
“Theopompus says, that there are fourteen Epirotic nations. Of these, the most celebrated are the Chaones and Molotti, because the whole of Epirus was at one time subject, first to Chaones, afterwards to Molotti. Their power was greatly strengthened by the family of their kings being descended from the Æacidæ, and because the ancient and famous oracle of Dodona was in their country. Chaones, Thesproti, and next after these Cassopæi, (who are Thesproti,) occupy the coast, a fertile tract reaching from the Ceraunian mountains to the Ambracian Gulf.”
“The Molotti also were Epirotæ, and were subjects of Pyrrhus Neoptolemus, the son of Achilles, and of his descendants, who were Thessalians. The rest were governed by native princes. Some tribes were continually endeavouring to obtain the mastery over the others, but all were finally subdued by the Macedonians, except a few situated above the Ionian Gulf.”
Strabo, 7.7.1
“Pyrrhus, the king of Epirus, had a particularly high opinion of his powers because he was deemed by foreign nations a match for the Romans; and he believed that it would be opportune to assist the fugitives who had taken refuge with him, especially as they were Greeks, and at the same time so forestall the Romans with some plausible excuse before he should suffer injury at their hands. For so careful was he about his good reputation that though he had long had his eye on Sicily and had been considering how he could overthrow the power of the Romans, he shrank from taking the initiative in hostilities against them, when no wrong had been done him.”
Cassius Dio, Book 9.4
19. When Harrybas, king of the Molossians, was attacked in war by Bardylis, the Illyrian, who commanded a considerably larger army, he dispatched the non-combatant portion of his subjects to the neighbouring district of Aetolia, and spread the report that he was yielding up his towns and possessions to the Aetolians. He himself, with those who could bear arms, placed ambuscades here and there on the mountains and in other inaccessible places. The Illyrians, fearful lest the possessions of the Molossians should be seized by the Aetolians, began to race along in disorder, in their eagerness for plunder. As soon as they became scattered, Harrybas, emerging from his concealment and taking them unawares, routed them and put them to flight.
Frontinus, Strategemata, 13
“Alexander, the Epirote, when waging war against the Illyrians, first placed a force in ambush, and then dressed up some of his own men in Illyrian garb, ordering them to lay waste his own, that is to say, Epirote territory. When the Illyrians saw that this was being done, they themselves began to pillage right and left — the more confidently since they thought that those who led the way were scouts. But when they had been designedly brought by the latter into a disadvantageous position, they were routed and killed.”
Averoff
Turkish fleet lol
ja, nur leider ist ein großer teil eurer geschichte auch gleichzeitig albanische geschichte...
alles was ich von euch gelesen habe in den letzten 3 jahren wo ich in diesen forum bin finde ich zusammengefasst hier drin
Albanian nationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
albanische propaganda mehr nicht
Paokaras
Kellerkind
Hat du mal was von Archeologie gehört?
Mal für dich genaz einfach beschrieben:
,,Paar kluge leute graben im boden rum und finden sehr,sehr alte Sachen.Nun rate mal,auf diese alten sachen fand man nur dieGriechische Sprache!!!!!
Achso es gibt auch sehr,sehr alte überleiferungen von antiken Historikern die Alexander und die Makedonen als Griechen bezeichnen.
Noch einfacher kann ich es dir net erklären
