Völkermord an den Assyrern

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Allih wir reden hier vom auslöschen der Lebensgrundlagen wie Felder , Dörfer , Frauen , Kinder alte Menschen. Ob dann noch einige wenige Tarzans in den Bergen bewaffnet sind

Oder die Tarzans, welche bewaffnet mit einer riesenarmee, ein land zu befrieden gesucht.Und im Zuge dessen wie ein Berserker auf die unschuldigen losgeht. Wenn man nur gegen die bewaffneten vorgangen wäre, tja dann würde ich mich nicht die mühe machen, es zu thematisieren.

Im 3. Reich gab es auch bewaffneten Widerstand ( Aufstand im Warschauer Getto ) der blutig niedergeschlagen wurde
und die Überlebenden Zwangsdeportiert wurden.

Ich rede von den Spaniern in Südamerika die die Ureinwohner mit Gewalt Zwangmissioniert haben.Und das zu der Zeit als das Osmanische Reich eine Weltmacht war.Die Türken hätten

So so, dich interessiert das Schicksal der armen indigenen Bevölkerung Süd und Mittelamerikas(Mich übrigens auch), dann eröffnent bitte einen weiters Thema mit einer überschrift die da lauten mag, wie es beliebt. Hier jedoch geht es um das Schicksal vieler unglücklicher, die unter uns gesagt keine spanier portugiesen wikinger waren, sondern die indigene(zum grossen teil) Bevölkerung Anatoliens. Daher mögen deine Vergleiche diese Menschen herzlich wenig tangieren, es sei denn, das sie aufgrund des, gleichen unglücklichen Schicksal genossen sind.

 

[speedy123]

Du weist schon was ein Vergleich ist???
Nur um ein Negatives Beispiel heranzuführen , wie man es auch hätte machen können und heute sich nicht hätte rechtfertigen müssen , muss ich gleich ein neues Thema eröffnen???
Ist es falsch , das es den Armeniern unter Osmanischer Herrschaft relativ gut ging und sie sich frei entfalten konnten?

 

[Allih der Große]

Allih wir reden hier vom auslöschen der Lebensgrundlagen wie Felder , Dörfer , Frauen , Kinder alte Menschen. Ob dann noch einige wenige Tarzans in den Bergen bewaffnet sind
ist absolut uninteressant.So etwas ist ein Völkermord.Im 3. Reich gab es auch bewaffneten Widerstand ( Aufstand im Warschauer Getto ) der blutig niedergeschlagen wurde
und die Überlebenden Zwangsdeportiert wurden.

Ich rede von den Spaniern in Südamerika die die Ureinwohner mit Gewalt Zwangmissioniert haben.Und das zu der Zeit als das Osmanische Reich eine Weltmacht war.Die Türken hätten
sich auch von solchen Aktionen inspirieren lassen haben sie aber nicht, im Gegenteil sie waren für diese grausame Zeit sehr tolerant anderen Religionen über.

Um einen Voelkermord zu begehen muss man militaerisch sehr viel staerker und zahlenmaessig deutlich in der Ueberzahl sein.
Und nochmal - die "Tuerken" mit den groesstenteil nichttuerkischen "Osmanen" gleichzusetzen ist voelliger Kaese.

 

[Sonne-2012]

Wann werden die Assyrer als Midnerheit in der Türkei anerkannt?

The Assyrian Genocide and Article 312 of the Turkish Penal Code: the case of an Assyrian Priest in Turkey

On 8 November 2000, the French Senate passed a resolution condemning and recognising the Armenian genocide.(2) This gave rise to mass hysteria in the Turkish press. Even Doğu Perinçek’s Aydιnlιk joined in imagining European and American conspiracies to break up Turkey.(3) A former Maoist, and now a staunch Kemalist, Perinçek epitomises the journey of the Turkish left towards nationalism. With some exceptions, there seem to be a convergence between the left and the right in Turkey on such issues as the genocide. Both political spheres use such terms as “sözde soykirim” (“so-called genocide”) to deny the genocide against the Armenians and display a crude nationalism. This makes it very difficult for anyone to raise the issue of the genocide from a divergent perspective, as the combined forces of opposition are very strong.

During September and October 2000, the US Senate was also discussing a resolution on the genocide, which eventually did not pass. It was not clear at the time whether the resolution was going to be adopted.(4) Nevertheless, Turkish newspapers felt obliged to print another volume of articles attacking Armenians and any other ethnic group or institution viewed as suspicious. One such paper, Olay, went to extract a statement from an Assyrian priest, Yusuf Akbulut. The first suspicious factor is why they chose to go to obtain a statement from a priest with a very small congregation in Diyarbakir(5), when they could have spoken to religious leaders in Tur’Abdin or Istanbul.

It may be thought that the journalists went to trap the priest thinking that a metropolitan, such as Timotheos Samuel Aktaş, who has more experience in dealing with the press, may not be easily ambushed. The fact that they have secretly recorded on a video the interview gives more weight to such suspicions (See the full text of the indictment at Appendix A). Nevertheless, it is more likely that they went to extract a kind of statement the Armenian Patriarchate issues from time to time, to appease Turkish authorities. For example, on the occasion of the resolution in the French Senate, the Armenians Patriarch, who, it should be pointed, has no choice, issued one of those regular statements, and avoided incurring the wrath of the Turkish authorities and press.(6)
The Assyrian Genocide and Article 312 of the Turkish Penal Code: the case of an Assyrian Priest in Turkey (1)

 

[Sonne-2012]

Alle drei Völkermorde an den Armeniern, Griechen und Assyrerrn, sieht das gleiche Muster der damaligen Türkei:

Massaker, Vergewaltigungen und Plünderungen, auch vor Frauen und Kindenr wurde nicht halt gemacht.

Wann wird die Türkei diese Verbrechen gegen die Menschlichkeit endlich anerkennen.

The status of Ottoman Christians became even more precarious after the ultranationalist "Young Turks" emerged as a dominant political force in the Empire. Organized as the Committee of Union and Progress (CUP), the "Young Turks" staged a successful coup in 1913, thereby establishing a military dictatorship on the eve of World War I. They initiated a national project of "Turkey for the Turks," whereby they sought to forge a homogenous nation state through the deliberate removal of all minorities. Soon after the Ottoman Empire entered World War I in November 1914, the CUP ruthlessly began its genocidal project. Waging more or less simultaneous genocides against Assyrians, Armenians, and Greeks, the CUP essentially followed the same pattern of group destruction. Massacres, rapes, plundering, cultural desecrations, and forced deportations were all endemic. Around 750,000 Assyrians died during the genocide, amounting to nearly three quarters of its prewar population. The rest were dispersed elsewhere, mostly in the Middle East.

Unfortunately, the persecution of Assyrians did not end with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. From August 8-11, 1933, in the newly established state of Iraq, Assyrian villagers in the northern Iraqi town of Simele were brutally murdered. Some 3,000 men, women, and children were killed by Iraqi soldiers and Kurdish irregulars. The massacre was covered by Western media sources, and it inspired the intellectual development of Raphael Lemkin, the Polish-Jewish jurist who would go on to coin the word "genocide."
The Assyrian Genocide, 1914 to 1923 and 1933 up to the present | Rutgers?Newark Colleges of Arts & Sciences

 

[Sonne-2012]

99 Years of Turkish Genocide

(AINA) -- On April 24, 1915 the Turkish genocide of Assyrians, Greeks and Armenians began very simply, without pomp and circumstance. "We have made a clean sweep of the Armenians and Assyrians of Azerbaijan." Those were the words of Djevdet Bey, the governor of Van Province in Ottoman Turkey, who on April 24, 1915 lead 20,000 Turkish soldiers and 10,000 Kurdish irregulars in the opening act of the genocide of Assyrians, Armenians and Pontic Greeks. In three short years, 750,000 Assyrians (75%) would be killed, 1.5 million Armenians and 500,000 Greeks.


On April 24 Assyrians, Greeks and Armenians will commemorate the 99th anniversary of the genocide with vigils, church services, lectures, demonstrations and personal reflection.

Much progress in recognizing the genocide has been made throughout the world since 1915. Many states officially recognize the Armenian genocide. Australia and Sweden have officially recognized the Assyrian genocide -- called Seyfo (sword) in Assyrian. The International Genocide Scholars Association Officially Recognized the Assyrian and Greek Genocides (AINA 2007-12-15

But recognition for the genocide by the most important country has not been made. Turkey has not only denied the genocide, but has actively worked to block its recognition throughout the world. In February, 2013 the Turkish EU minister Egemen Bagis compared the Assyrian genocide with the act of masturbation (AINA 2013-02-26).
99 Years of Turkish Genocide

 

[Sonne-2012]

Du weist schon was ein Vergleich ist???
Nur um ein Negatives Beispiel heranzuführen , wie man es auch hätte machen können und heute sich nicht hätte rechtfertigen müssen , muss ich gleich ein neues Thema eröffnen???
Ist es falsch , das es den Armeniern unter Osmanischer Herrschaft relativ gut ging und sie sich frei entfalten konnten?

Hier geht es um den Völkermord an den Assyrern.

 

[Tigerfish]

Der Kerl ist nicht zu stoppen .

 

[Sonne-2012]

Der Genozid an den Assyrern

http://www.aramaic-dem.org/English/History/Dr. Tessa Hofmann.pdf

 

[Sonne-2012]

The Assyrian Genocide By Ottoman Turkey

Assyrians are the indigenous people of Iraq, Turkey, Iran, Syria and Lebanon. , who have a history that spans over 7000 years. Today's Assyrians are the descendants of the ancient Assyrian Empire that was one of the earliest civilizations to emerge in Mesopotamia.

The Assyrian language is classical Syriac, an offshoot of Aramaic, the language Jesus Christ spoke. The Christian Assyrian nation has five apostolic churches; the three major being the Assyrian Church of the East, the Chaldean Church and the Syrian Orthodox Church.

Following the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, Assyrians were one of the first nations to convert to Christianity, tracing its roots to the first and oldest Church, the Holy Apostolic Catholic Assyrian Church of the East which was founded by Saint Thomas the Apostle as well as Saints Mari and Addai, The Church of the East had been an active evangelical church, spreading the teaching of Christ peacefully further east to Asia.

Since the collapse of the Assyrian Empire in 612 BC, colonisation of their lands by various powers has been a common occurrence, with each wave of such colonisation causing more land losses, more human losses and more tragedies for the Assyrians.

However, the twentieth century was to be the darkest chapter in the history of the Assyrians. Those few millions who had withstood the melting process of the millennia, and had remained homogeneous in their ancestral homeland, became the victims of one of the worst Assyrian genocides in the early part of the 20th century by the Ottomans Empire that dominated most of the Middle East from fifteenth century to the first part of the twentieth century, which completely reshaped the destiny of the Assyrian people.

In 1842 Assyrians living in the mountains of Hakkari South East of Turkey faced a massive attack by a Kurdish Leader advancing from East, which resulted in the death of tens of thousands of Christian Assyrians and occupying their lands.

1895-1896, witnessed the Assyrian massacres in Diyarbakir, Hasankeyef, Sivas and other parts of Anatolia, by Sultan Abdul Hamid II. These attacks caused the

death of over 55,000 Assyrians and the forced Ottomanisation of a further 100,000 Assyrians - the inhabitants of 245 villages. A further 100,000 Assyrian women and children were forced into Turkish harems. The Turkish troops looted the remains of the Assyrian settlements. Assyrians were raped, tortured and murdered.
The Assyrian Genocide By Ottoman Turkey