Gruevski: Wir wissen wer wir sind!

[Skitnik]

Es ist ja nicht schlimm "Slawomazedonier" zu sagen, da ihr ja eine slawische Sprache sprecht und deshalb ja dann automatisch zur slawischen Sprachfamilie dazugehört, kurzgesagt dann zu den "Slawen".

Aber die Absichten von Leuten dahinter sind oftmals andere, oft wird mit dem Term provoziert und von vielen Mazedoniern auch als Provokation aufgenommen, obwohl der Begriff die Makedonier in Griechenland mit denen aus Mazedonien sprachlich (und vielleicht kulturell) trennt, um Verwechselungen zu vermeiden.

Ich persönlich nenne euch "Mazedonier" oder "Makedonier" und die anderen in Griechenland nenn ich "griechische Makedonier", das ist dann wenigstens für beide Seiten akzeptabel.

und wie rechtfertigst du es deiner sprachgenossen gegenüber? hmmm? sollen die auch slavomazedonier genannt werden?


ich bin froh dass wenigstens das adjektiv "mazedonisch" nicht verboten wird.

 

[Heraclius]

Das ist deine Interpretation, ich habe gefragt was das für ein Beweis sein soll auf den Bezug deiner Ausführung und zu den albanischen Medien gabs nur ein lol27 (mag ich weil 27 meine Rückennummer früher immer gewesen ist )

Deine Rückennummer im Hockey, du alter Rocker?

Heraclius

 

[Mbreti Bardhyl]

Und wisst ihr wer ihr seid oder????.
Natürlich dank Gruevski

 

[Zoran]

Deine Rückennummer im Hockey, du alter Rocker?

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Heraclius

Nö,
im Hockey habe ich die 99 )))))))


PS: GEILES BILD!!!!!

 

[AnubisGM3]

Gruveski ist der beste politiker mazedoniens mMn.

 

[Zoran]

Gruveski ist der beste politiker mazedoniens mMn.

Schon als damaliger Finanzminister.

Im Rahmen dieser Ausbildung hospitierte er 1996 für geraume Zeit an der Frankfurter Börse sowie mehreren Investmentbanken weltweit, darunter auch in Frankfurt am Main. Gruevski erhielt 2006 seinen Abschluss als Master of Science in Economics an der Sankt Cyril and Methodius Universität in Skopje.

 

[AnubisGM3]

Schon als damaliger Finanzminister.

Er ist echt gut,versteht also was von Finanzen und Wirtschaft und gibt nicht leicht nach.

 

[Zoran]

Die australische Regierung hat die Verfügung von 1994 aufgehoben, mit welcher die Makedonier in Australien mit "Slawomakedonier" bezeichnet wurden. Ab jetzt gibt es in Australien nur noch MAKEDONIER.
Als nächster Schritt, so die makedonische Minderheit in Australien, bleibt das lobbyieren um die Anerkennung des Verfassungsrechtlichen Namen der Republik Makedonien.


Australian government erases term 'Slav-Macedonian', to use 'Macedonian'
Perth, 13 February 2012 (MIA) - After a long-standing lobbying campaign, the Australian government has withdrawn the so-called Slav-Macedonian Directive, by which the Macedonian community was renamed in 1994, said the Australian-Macedonian Human Rights Committee (AMHRC).
MIA - Macedonian Information Agency - Australian government erases term 'Slav-Macedonian', to use 'Macedonian' -
This has been confirmed by the letter addressed to AMHRC, in which the acting chief of cabinet of the minister of foreign affairs says the 'Slav-Macedonian' administrative circular letter is no longer in force at the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT). In line with the practice for invalid administrative circular letters, it has been annulled and the document has been archived. Moreover, the letter reads the disputable directive is not applied in other governmental services, including the Department of Immigration & Citizenship and the Bureau of Statistics.

The Department of Immigration & Citizenship has also confirmed that term "Slav-Macedonian" is not used, in a separate letter to AMHRC dated 11 January 2012.

"The Translating and Interpreting Service (TIS) National uses exclusively term 'Macedonian'. We acknowledge the concern of the Macedonian-Australian community regarding this issue", reads the letter of Australia's Department of Immigration & Citizenship.

According to AMHRC, this victory puts an end to the long-standing campaign, which aimed at the government's acceptance of the Macedonian community's right for self-identification.

"The Australian government's notification that it officially ends its offensive renaming policy means a return towards the long-term and successful policy of multi-culture, which AMHRC has supported. This is a victory that will be useful for the maintenance of human rights of all Australians. Although AMHRC is happy that the Australian government has altered its policy towards the Macedonian community, it reiterates its request for recognition of the Republic of Macedonia under its official and democratically chosen name", the AMHRC says in a press release.

Republic of Macedonia and Australia established diplomatic relations in October 1995.




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Griechische Diaspora in Australien nervös

Грците во Австралија исплашени – дали владата ја менува политиката во однос на уставното име на Македонија
Откако Славомакедонците конечно станаа Македонци во Австралија, се исплашија Грците од дијаспората, па бараа објаснување од австралиското МНР.
http://www.kanal5.com.mk/default.aspx?mId=37&eventId=87365
Портпаролот, за грчкиот весник Неос Космос, што излегува во Австралија, го потврдува истото она што минатат недела го соопшти австралиско-македонскиот комитет за човекови права, повлекување на Директивата -„Славомакедонското административно циркуларно писмо“ од 1994та.

Грците од Австралија повлекувањето а оваа директива веднаш го поврзале со промена на политиката на австралиската влада во однос на нашето уставно име, па побарале од министерството за надворешни работи дополнително објаснување, дали и одлуката од 1994та за употреба на ФИРОМ за нашата земја, ќе се промени.

„Владата е свесна за чувствителноста на заедницата во однос на прашањето за името, но нема промени во политиката. Употребата на името Поранешна Југословенска Република Македонија од страна на Австралија ја следи праксата на Обединетите нации и е привремена мерка додека се чека решение на спорот помеѓу владите на Скопје и Атина.“ - објаснуваат од австралиското МНР, за весникот Неос Космос.

Портпаролот на министерството додава дека Австралија ги охрабрува инволвираните страни да работат конструктивно и да ги надминат разликите со помош на медијаторот Метју Нимиц.

 

[Zoran]

IVANOV: Wir wissen selbst wer und was wir sind! Griechenland hat ein Problem (-mit unseren Namen-) nicht wir!

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http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/20395/1/

Ivanov: Greek Politicians Have Built Careers around Name dispute
Tuesday, 21 February 2012

Macedonia has been always constructive, contributing to finding a mutually acceptable solution to the name issue, President Gjorge Ivanov told reporters on Tuesday.
UN mediator Matthew Nimetz pointed out in his statement yesterday that Macedonia had been committed to resolving the 15-year-standing matter, Ivanov said.

"We expect for the other party to demonstrate the same commitment and constructiveness, but unfortunately there have been no positive trends lately in that regard...We don't see that Greece is suffering because Macedonia is not part of NATO and the European Union," Ivanov said.
He doesn't considers that now Macedonia-Greece division over the name issue is at its peak, which is confirmed by the relations of citizens of both countries.

"The situation on the ground, between common citizens of Macedonia and Greece is completely different. Fears and prejudices from the past are fading away. You can feel that when visiting Greece. The name problem is being created by political elites, using it for political goals. Some Greek politicians have built their careers by keeping the matter unresolved. We should consider all aspects as we are the ones to suffer because Greece has a problem with our name. We have no problem nor need to convince anybody who we are, as we know who and what we are," Ivanov said.

Иванов: Ние знаеме кои сме и што сме!
Вторник, 21 Февруари 2012 12:16

Грција има проблем со нашето име, а не ние. Ние знаеме кои сме и што сме, изјави претседателот на Република Македонија Ѓорге Иванов.


Иванов ова денеска го изјави при посетата на Филолошкиот факултет „Блаже Конески“ - Скопје, по повод Денот на мајчиниот јазик, одговарајќи на новинарско прашање.

-Ние сме посветени и конструктивни, тоа го очекуваме и од другата страна, но за жал не е така, изјави Иванов.

Тој рече дека ставовите и предрасудите исчезнуваат и дека меѓу граѓаните нема проблем. Иванов додаде дека прашањето за името е отворено во минатото поради политички цели.

 

[Yunan]

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